Nitrous installs anyone?

[shtbxr22]

Ok, so I will be updating this in quite some time from now seeing as I will be doing pistons and cams before installing nitrous, but just in case there is someone out there that has done it, let's see it!! anybody else dare to be different??

[RCKSTR]

I like being different... how well do you think the 2.2T closed deck would hold up to some nos??

how big of a shot are you going to put on it??

[shtbxr22]

I'm sure it would hold up great. definitely would need new pistons though.....the piston oil squirters can only do so much. I'm going for just a 75 shot. my crank/rods should be ok. just going to go with forged pistons and head studs for insurance.

[RCKSTR]

nice, looking forward to your updates :up: I love it when people start doing internals :devil:

[shtbxr22]

going with the cheapest first.....cams. :) got the cores already, so they'll only be $340. yee haw!!

[batorr]

I think synaptic 3 has. Might want to pm them

[Seraphinwolf]

going with the cheapest first.....cams. :) got the cores already, so they'll only be $340. yee haw!!
Delta Cams was running a holiday special until xmas midnight... Too bad you missed it. :spin:
I'm not sure about running NOS on an NA till after doing everything else first. I don't I'll run NOS on my EZ at all unless I really need to cooling when I turbo.

[Sinitron]

What kind of kit will you be running?

I've sold and helped install a lot of nitrous kits from various brands over the years, I'm just curious what your plans are.

[shtbxr22]

What kind of kit will you be running?

I've sold and helped install a lot of nitrous kits from various brands over the years, I'm just curious what your plans are.

I was thinking of goin with the "NOSzle" kit from NOS. 75 shot. any recommendations as far as ease of install/reliability?

[Sinitron]

I was thinking of goin with the "NOSzle" kit from NOS. 75 shot. any recommendations as far as ease of install/reliability?

Are you doing wet or dry?

[Oscar_Meyer]

remember the good ol' days b4 they put all the smelly stuff and such in the NOS to make U sick.. good times..:lol:

[Sinitron]

I was thinking of goin with the "NOSzle" kit from NOS. 75 shot. any recommendations as far as ease of install/reliability?

I'd highly suggest a wet kit, and check out the Zex 82021 or 82021B (black) kit if you aren't a fan of their purple color. They're a little nicer because they're tpms activated instead of a physical momentary switch. Their control box has the solenoids inside, that watch pressure level in addition to just opening and closing and allowing fuel regulation. I've used them on everything from older v6 jettas to supercharged impala ss's.

[Sinitron]

remember the good ol' days b4 they put all the smelly stuff and such in the NOS to make U sick.. good times..:lol:

Ny-trous brand n2o is what they use for cars from industrial suppliers, it's the same as medical grade nitrous but with sulfer added to deter chemical abuse. I suppose you could just get an s02 filter and take that right out however if you really wanted to inhale it correctly.

[Oscar_Meyer]

oh nOOO... I'm all set, I was just reminiscing.....I'd sure if U looked hard enuff U could get labratory grade without the additives...

[shtbxr22]

Are you doing wet or dry?


wet. it's a "piggyback" setup.

[Sinitron]

wet. it's a "piggyback" setup.

Sweet, check out a zex kit before you sign up for the NOS kit. The supporting hardware in the box is pretty different and maybe easier for you.

Start small with a 55-shot and read the plugs to make sure it's going good, dyno if possible with the nitrous kit to make sure A/F's are in line.

[shtbxr22]

Cool, I will when the time comes. :)

[Jaketips42]

I'll help ya setup an rpm activated switch so you can't "juice" before 3k rpms to start. Then you will need a full throttle switch as well. Should def do an adj fuel pressure reg too.

[shtbxr22]

word! :D

[Sinitron]

If you use a traditional NOS / holley brand nitrous kit, you can use window switches and WOT switches without a problem. I'm thinking a window would work with the zex as well since it used to be a simple 3 wire hookup.

I'm not sure on the fuel pressure regulator however... both systems if wet assume a stock fuel pressure to be injected for metering and dispersal through the solenoids and jets. That's something you would have to try on the dyno w/ AF metering to see how the changes in pressure take effect.

[shtbxr22]

good idea, I hope the stock pump can keep up. maybe a 255?

[Sinitron]

good idea, I hope the stock pump can keep up. maybe a 255?

I would def. throw a GSS342 in there if possible, they help everything out.

[shtbxr22]

will do. i'll be knocking on your door come nitrous time. ;)

[The Stig]

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[BG @ BrenTuning]

After looking at your fuel map man and logging your car, without the definitions to get in the DME, 14.7 to 6000 rpm isn't nitrous friendly. I'd def get a wet kit.

[Bu11dogg2]

^does inject directly into the cylinder?

[shtbxr22]

After looking at your fuel map man and logging your car, without the definitions to get in the DME, 14.7 to 6000 rpm isn't nitrous friendly. I'd def get a wet kit.

It is going to be a wet kit.

[shtbxr22]

^does inject directly into the cylinder?


The "NOSzle" wet kit is a piggy back on the existing injector kit, so it will spray where the existing injector sprays. The zex kit mentioned earlier i'm pretty sure injects where ever you tap the holes. if it was going directly in the cylinder I would have to drill into the head. I don't wanna do that. the closest i'll get is most likely at the peak of the intake runners, which should work fine.

[KaizenTuning]

The "NOSzle" wet kit is a piggy back on the existing injector kit, so it will spray where the existing injector sprays. The zex kit mentioned earlier i'm pretty sure injects where ever you tap the holes. if it was going directly in the cylinder I would have to drill into the head. I don't wanna do that. the closest i'll get is most likely at the peak of the intake runners, which should work fine.

Oh, speaking of which.

Now I remember what that NOSzzle thing was. Be careful with that product, I got one of the first few units they made of the under the injector style insert, and the little hard plasticy lines required a lot of careful attention to cut straight w/ a super sharp razor blade in order to work right. If you use scissors they tend to crimp a little, and blow off once inserted into the fitting and pressure fired. Could be a hair raising experience if not assembled correctly. They may have remedied this in later versions of the kit but watch yourself.

The Zex wet kit is a single jet / fogger that you usually stick a few inches away (but in a straight line) from the throttle body. It sprays both jetted fuel and metered nitrous into the intake manifold and is dispersed from there. Don't mess with the ECU tune very much until you can log on a controlled dyno and see how the kit reacts. The kits shoot for about 10 to 11:1 a/f with the stock 55 shot jets.

Good luck,
-Brian

[shtbxr22]

I have some super sharp blades. :) I like the idea of the NOSzle kit due to not having a highly volatile mixture hanging out in the huge center area of the manifold. I'd rather have it as close to the ports as possible. wouldn't wanna blow the welds on my intake.:rofl::rofl:

[KaizenTuning]

Oh I hear ya... I had high hopes for the NOSzle thing. It's like direct port without the hastle of all the drilling, tapping, and hard line plumbing. The only problem is if the lines slip out of the fittings and start spraying atomized fuel and nitrous all over the engine bay like a high pressure fire hose. That single jet by the throttle body may not look so bad after all :)

[Seraphinwolf]

I have some super sharp blades. :) I like the idea of the NOSzle kit due to not having a highly volatile mixture hanging out in the huge center area of the manifold. I'd rather have it as close to the ports as possible. wouldn't wanna blow the welds on my intake.:rofl::rofl:
Then you "and the mad scientist are gonna have ot tear apart the block and replace the piston rings you fried!"
:cool: I went there...

[KaizenTuning]

Just wait for the rods and pistons to come out on their own... it saves the time and trouble "teardown labor" :)

[shtbxr22]

I think the rods will make it, but I will be doing 11.2:1 forged wiseco pistons. It should be less than 280 at the crank after nitrous.

[Bu11dogg2]

When do you think you'll get this in?

[shtbxr22]

long time from now. i'll get the cams before feb. then i'll have to save up almost a "G" for the pistons. I'm hoping for within 6 months. if there are any sidejobs that come my way maybe sooner. ;) Another thing I need that is detrimental to this project would be that Romraider get off their ass and make definitions for my "special" ECM. They have received my factory map. now just twiddle my thumbs. I will not put the happy gas on without being able to tune.

[Bu11dogg2]

which cams?

[shtbxr22]

these bad boys.......

http://www.rallitek.com/raca062.html

[Bu11dogg2]

Pretty :wub:

20whp :eek:

[shtbxr22]

I'm a little skeptical. just imagine with a tune. :eek:

[Bu11dogg2]

with everything installed you'll be at GT #'s :)

[shtbxr22]

hopefully more than stock GT #'s, and no lag. ;)

[Bu11dogg2]

that would make for a fun car :)

What #'s are you hoping for?

[shtbxr22]

currently 130-ish AWHP, +20:cams, +10:93 oct tune, +10:high comp. pistons. may be more or less depending on how much advertised hp is to actual, and how much bren can squeeze out of it. plus, the power gains on the tune and high comp. pistons are just guesses. hopefully 170-ish at the wheels off the bottle which should be fun just that way, but +75 to get 245-ish on the happy gas should be a bit more than a GT has at the wheels. it's all subject to change depending on the tune, etc. we shall see. :)

[Bu11dogg2]

damn, i had no idea your car was 130whp stock... I know the LGT's are 191AWHP

[98Wagoon]

Then you "and the mad scientist are gonna have ot tear apart the block and replace the piston rings you fried!"
:cool: I went there...


oh no you di'int!

[shtbxr22]

damn, i had no idea your car was 130whp stock... I know the LGT's are 191AWHP


it may be 131 with the lightweight crank pulley.:lol:

[Bu11dogg2]

any updates?

[shtbxr22]

not yet. still waiting on that silly uncle sam to give me my cash. I may possibly run an 08 ECM though since there are opensource definitions for that. :)