Ask a tuner.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Simple topic here.....

Have a question about recommend parts, or setups that tune well?

Have a question about mod paths that equal your goals or xxxwhp?

Have a question about reliability or maintenance for best possible tuning numbers?

Just ask them here. This applies to anyone.

:cool:

[RCKSTR]

OK I'll go first :lol:

just picked up a 91 legacy ss, want to do some simple mods including a turbo upgrade to try and reach stage 2 wrx power...

whats a good EM for the obd1 ecu? not really looking for a very expensive EM either...

[BG @ BrenTuning]

You'd probably want the td05 16g off an earlier jdm wrx and to find someone to burn you an eprom chip for your mods, or buy the whole system yourself to the tune of about 6k :)

Techtom MT2000

[Bu11dogg2]

Which do you think is safer for making big power with a TMIC?

1. a TORCO (or other high octane fuel) tune with an AP (1 street and 1 aggressive map)
2. Run Meth

[etaks99rs]

+1 on that one^

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Which do you think is safer for making big power with a TMIC?

1. a TORCO (or other high octane fuel) tune with an AP (1 street and 1 aggressive map)
2. Run Meth

c) The correct top mount, and the correct setup (meaning dont push the turbo to it's flame throwing edge)

It's no lie I'm not a huge fan of meth on a street driven car, and high octane as alot of human error can take place. And alot of people don't go the extra lengths when purchasing and implementing failsafes.

A cheap top mount will only get you so far, like an sti take off, or an ebay. While a Spearco has the ability to feed flow a GT35R on pump gas if necessary.

[jwebsta32]

So meth would look good with my perrin TMIC and my Blouch 2.5r?????

mods



ENGINE
Cobb SFI and Intake box
Cobb catless TBE
Perrin afta maf tube
Perrin turbo inlet
Perrin BPV
Perrin TMIC
Grimmspeed PnP TGV delete
Hallman Pro MBC
Turbo XS up pipe
DW 850cc injectors
NGK iridium 1 step colder plugs
Blouch 2.5r turbo
GT-SPEC header up pipe

[BG @ BrenTuning]

So meth would look good with my perrin TMIC and my Blouch 2.5r?????

mods



ENGINE
Cobb SFI and Intake box
Cobb catless TBE
Perrin afta maf tube
Perrin turbo inlet
Perrin BPV
Perrin TMIC
Grimmspeed PnP TGV delete
Hallman Pro MBC
Turbo XS up pipe
DW 850cc injectors
NGK iridium 1 step colder plugs
Blouch 2.5r turbo
GT-SPEC header up pipe

That's a nice setup. However I am not a huge fan of meth. For your setup next step would be a FMIC or EWG.

[squeethebee]

Can you give someone launch control with an open source tune?

ed

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Can you give someone launch control with an open source tune?

ed

Yes depending on the model, I have launch control for just about every application. Some 32bit models I have flat foot shifting as well. :D

[squeethebee]

02-03 WRX ECU.

ed

[ryebread929]

02-03 WRX ECU.

ed

he has it and put it in my girlfriends stage 2 wrx..... its awesome!!!

[jwebsta32]

That's a nice setup. However I am not a huge fan of meth. For your setup next step would be a FMIC or EWG.



I wouldnt mind going EWG, but I would probly want to plumb it back in....PITA....I am thinking FMIC tho

[BG @ BrenTuning]

02-03 WRX ECU.

ed

Yes, I was one of the first bugeyes to have it on an 02-03 ECU back in 03, lots of confused looks :lol:

look ma, no UTEC

[squeethebee]

OOooo!! Does that cost extra? Also, could you explain to me this "flat foot shift" and why, if possible on my ECU, I want it?

ed

[BG @ BrenTuning]

free LC for 16bit ECUs :)

32bit can only have the flat foot, So you can keep the pedal pinned, no boost loss into the next gear.

[Demetry]

This is a good idea for a thread. Wish I saw it a couple days ago...

[squeethebee]

So I am assuming bugeye ECU's are NOT 32bit?

ed

[BG @ BrenTuning]

So I am assuming bugeye ECU's are NOT 32bit?

ed

Yes the 2.0L's are all 16bit.

[squeethebee]

Figures.

So what kind of power should I be looking at on a 2.0 with...
-TD04
-EL header/up pipe
-3" catless turbo back
-Perrin turbo inlet
-Deleted TGV's
-BIG tmic
-Gimmick crank pulley (mad hp's 4real!)
-stock wrx injectors
-stock sti airbox

ed

[subaru_crazy]

what would i need to do to put a ej22t from a 91 leggy into a 97 impreza ej22 with out throwing any codes so itll pass emissions.

[squeethebee]

An act of God. That's illegal broseph!

ed

[batorr]

Looking to get an injector upgrade (600-660). Right now i have sti injectors and sti block in my 02 wrx and a greddy turbo. What type of injectors would you recomend?

[Seraphinwolf]

Bren, How familiar with working with AEM standalone software are you? Cause it looks like that's what I'll be using for my 3.0L. :D Any reason a base map run logging can't be forwarded over to you to get a more accurate tune prior to finding time for a street/dyno session? Or waist of time and just shoot down across the boarder for a tune?

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Figures.

So what kind of power should I be looking at on a 2.0 with...
-TD04
-EL header/up pipe
-3" catless turbo back
-Perrin turbo inlet
-Deleted TGV's
-BIG tmic
-Gimmick crank pulley (mad hp's 4real!)
-stock wrx injectors
-stock sti airbox

ed

Your missing the biggest thing, some sort of aftermarket boost controller :D Stock ones at mileage absolutely suck even maxed out at 100%

If all is well 240-245whp. The stock turbo is done at 250.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Looking to get an injector upgrade (600-660). Right now i have sti injectors and sti block in my 02 wrx and a greddy turbo. What type of injectors would you recomend?

greddy 18g or 25?

get DW deutchwerk 740s or 820s. No point in 650s

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Bren, How familiar with working with AEM standalone software are you? Cause it looks like that's what I'll be using for my 3.0L. :D Any reason a base map run logging can't be forwarded over to you to get a more accurate tune prior to finding time for a street/dyno session? Or waist of time and just shoot down across the boarder for a tune?

I'm actually going to go take the AEM class early 2010. Only person I'd let touch my AEM would be Junior2JZ at the Shop.

[Seraphinwolf]

I'm actually going to go take the AEM class early 2010. Only person I'd let touch my AEM would be Junior2JZ at the Shop.
Thanks for the heads up. Yeah I need to get it first and that requires finding more info on the exact model which requires GETTING AHOLD OF MY ONLY SOURCE OF REAL INFO WHO ISN"T ANSWERING THE PHONE! :unamused: (Kevin @ Garage Tuning in Torrance has info for me to ask him when I'm paying for my hub and dash swap parts)

I"ll make sure to get a hold of you by the time I'm ready which will be next year I'm thinking anyways with the rate I'll be getting things together.:o

[squeethebee]

Your missing the biggest thing, some sort of aftermarket boost controller :D Stock ones at mileage absolutely suck even maxed out at 100%

If all is well 240-245whp. The stock turbo is done at 250.

I thought I was forgetting something. But no worries, that is just the stuff I have right now. If all goes well, it will be installed next weekend, and I can just run it on stock boost for now, switching to an MBC after everything is proven to work. I've heard you like Forge MBC's, any other kind I could look at, or is that about it? Also, what about the Grimmspeed EBCS?

ed

[squeethebee]

Also, td04 is only going to be on untill spring. I have a VF39 in the wings, just got to pick out and buy injectors.

ed

[RCKSTR]

Mmmmmmmmmmm I need launch contoll again :spin:

[etaks99rs]

I'm into auto-x and I am wondering what turbo(s) would be an upgrade to the vf39 but won't have any lag. Is there such a thing? I'm not looking for huge numbers, just a bit more all around.

[batorr]

greddy 18g or 25?

get DW deutchwerk 740s or 820s. No point in 650s
18g

[Seraphinwolf]

I'm into auto-x and I am wondering what turbo(s) would be an upgrade to the vf39 but won't have any lag. Is there such a thing? I'm not looking for huge numbers, just a bit more all around.

Isn't the VF twinscroll setup from the S402 supposed to be exactly this option?

[StiXXX]

What kind of numbers could you squeeze out of this?

http://www.newenglandsubarus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8704

[tC2WRX]

What WHP should I shoot for DD when I get tuned?


Engine/ Power:
VF22 - Being Sent out for port/polish
SPT intake w/ heat shield
STI TMIC w/ Y Pipe-----Soon to be FMIC from AJW
STI Injectors ported to 800 CC downtuned
Perrin Underdrive Pulley
Forge BPV 50/50
Turbo XS Boost Controller
HKS Up/Down Pipe
Greddy EVO 2 Catback
http://www.newenglandsubarus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5612&highlight=project+bird

[BG @ BrenTuning]

I'm into auto-x and I am wondering what turbo(s) would be an upgrade to the vf39 but won't have any lag. Is there such a thing? I'm not looking for huge numbers, just a bit more all around.

Since you have a 2.5L, I would suggest a HTA68, One of the vendors on here is selling them :D

Better then VF39 spool with td05 20g-like top end. :)

[BG @ BrenTuning]

18g

Ok, stick with those recommendations

[BG @ BrenTuning]

What kind of numbers could you squeeze out of this?

http://www.newenglandsubarus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8704

Current or upcoming mods?

[BG @ BrenTuning]

What WHP should I shoot for DD when I get tuned?


Engine/ Power:
VF22 - Being Sent out for port/polish
SPT intake w/ heat shield
STI TMIC w/ Y Pipe-----Soon to be FMIC from AJW
STI Injectors ported to 800 CC downtuned
Perrin Underdrive Pulley
Forge BPV 50/50
Turbo XS Boost Controller
HKS Up/Down Pipe
Greddy EVO 2 Catback
http://www.newenglandsubarus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5612&highlight=project+bird

285whp would be good out of that setup if all is well.

[MikeyMeyagi]

Current or upcoming mods?

those are the current mods on the car.

[StiXXX]

Current or upcoming mods?

My 'mod list in the above link is current, & complete.
I dislike Fantasy Football, & Fantasy Tuning, even more. ;)
I know my setup is good for more than its current (Mustang dyno'd) 330WHP reading, & I'd like your input before (if) I decide to make some changes.


Thanks,


XXX

[etaks99rs]

Since you have a 2.5L, I would suggest a HTA68, One of the vendors on here is selling them :D

Better then VF39 spool with td05 20g-like top end. :)

Heck freaking yeah! Thanks!

[BG @ BrenTuning]

My 'mod list in the above link is current, & complete.
I dislike Fantasy Football, & Fantasy Tuning, even more. ;)
I know my setup is good for more than its current (Mustang dyno'd) 330WHP reading, & I'd like your input before (if) I decide to make some changes.


Thanks,


XXX

Ah, this is the car I heard about with 330whp on a 35R, no?

[squeethebee]

It believe its an FPGreen.

ed

[jwebsta32]

nope...damn you ed beat me too it

[squeethebee]

Do I win free launch control on my tune??

ed

[jwebsta32]

winner winner chicken dinner

[StiXXX]

Ah, this is the car I heard about with 330whp on a 35R, no?


No.
If I had a 35R only putting out 330WHP I'd be posting a thread warning about
the tuner that Epic Failed.
DSG (absolutely) could NOT tune my, or my buddy Nate's, STIs.
They Epic Failed-$500 wasted.
ESP did a too-conservative (for my liking, but safe-they're a great shop!) tune.
It was okay, then, but now it's time to tweak it.
See my 'mod list, it's an FP Green, Axis Stg. II block, 850cc DW Injectors, APS fuel rails, Walboro255, etc. etc.
It's complete, runs 10.5:1 @ WOT, IMO the dynamic ignition timing table was left OEM. With forged pistons, wouldn't an 11.5:1 under WOT allow for more timing, & hence, more boost?

[jwebsta32]

hmmmm...maybe its your headlight covers?

[BG @ BrenTuning]

It believe its an FPGreen.

ed

fp green 8cm on pump on ESP's dyno 330-350 is right.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

No.
If I had a 35R only putting out 330WHP I'd be posting a thread warning about
the tuner that Epic Failed.
DSG (absolutely) could NOT tune my, or my buddy Nate's, STIs.
They Epic Failed-$500 wasted.
ESP did a too-conservative (for my liking, but safe-they're a great shop!) tune.
It was okay, then, but now it's time to tweak it.
See my 'mod list, it's an FP Green, Axis Stg. II block, 850cc DW Injectors, APS fuel rails, Walboro255, etc. etc.
It's complete, runs 10.5:1 @ WOT, IMO the dynamic ignition timing table was left OEM. With forged pistons, wouldn't an 11.5:1 under WOT allow for more timing, & hence, more boost?

You were charged fully even though the car wasn't tuned? What? Sure there was nothing mechanical wrong?

Who tuned it at ESP, Mike?

DA can be left OEM, if the base table was changed, each tuner has their own preference here so you have to see the full spectrum of how they did it before pointing fingers.

Less fuel will not allow more timing, more boost, it's usually the other way around. It's a balancing act. If your forged pistons are higher compression - that could be a reason behind it.

You have to trust your tuner to do everything he/she within the setups limitations. If you don't trust your tuner, find another one.

We can't magically hit internet dyno numbers or have a car be consistent that has problems. There is a ton of variables. :cool:

I tuned 2 identical setup VF39 2.0L cars the other day. One of them would take 10.8 AFR, 17 psi, 20 degrees advance at redline consistently, the other took 11.2 AFR, 20psi, and 27 degrees advance at redline consistently. Maintenance up to par and everything in line in both cars. The 20 degree car was higher mileage. Both wanted "300whp" on airboy.

[StiXXX]

Well, that means it's time for the 35R.
Question answered/problem solved.

Thanks!

So-this means I need a 35R and a larger, black FMIC w/piping.
Any install/tune n' play brand suggestions?
Good parts, like APS, no cheese-like Perrin.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Well, that means it's time for the 35R.
Question answered/problem solved.

Thanks!

So-this means I need a 35R and a larger, black FMIC w/piping.
Any install/tune n' play brand suggestions?
Good parts, like APS, no cheese-like Perrin.

I could eek a bit more SAFE power out of that current tune for the Green if you are interested. Including heavily in the driveability area.

[StiXXX]

ESP did a great job, it was DSG that was a waste of tuning time & $.
I love ESP, great guys!
Afom who tunes VTEKs recently had some ideas about how the tune might be improved-that's why I asked you.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Well, that means it's time for the 35R.
Question answered/problem solved.

Thanks!

So-this means I need a 35R and a larger, black FMIC w/piping.
Any install/tune n' play brand suggestions?
Good parts, like APS, no cheese-like Perrin.

APS 725 :cool:

AMS HTA35R kit

[BG @ BrenTuning]

ESP did a great job, it was DSG that was a waste of tuning time & $.
I love ESP, great guys!
Afom who tunes VTEKs recently had some ideas about how the tune might be improved-that's why I asked you.

If you want to email me your map and some logs I can take a look at it and give you an honest opinion.

brentuning@gmail.com

[StiXXX]

Drivability is good, some stutter and leaning out at 2750rpm in 4th, also 6th bogs like a mofo. A bit of street tuning would solve that, I'd think.
Living in northern ME, it's a pita (a FULL day!) to get to MA or I would have trucked back to ESP for tweaks. STI mods-a part time JOB (sigh!) :D
I want at least 400whp, & that's not gonna happen w/out a 35R. Dammit.

[StiXXX]

I'm waiting on a cable, it's backordered. Dammit.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

400whp with an 8cm 3" is possible on a dynojet with a few glory pulls.

[StiXXX]

It's not about glory for me, just (very) consistant power and reliability.
The 35R was already planned unless I could pull 400whp from the FP, daily, safely, w/out meth. Not gonna' happen, so it's 35R time.
Afom's gonna' buy my whole FP setup, fmic and all, so it shouldn't be too painful. Or not. :D

Thanks for the valuable input!

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Correct if you want consistent, powerful pump gas power for 400whp. You want to get a setup that is clearly over 400 for safety margin sake.

Good luck! :)

[squeethebee]

Bren, when replacing an oil pump, anything special I should do to it? Also, is the fujibond I used on the oil pan cool to use on this as well?

ed

[Street Burner]

BREN, I INSTALLED A VF39 INTO MY 04 WRX THIS WEEKEND, FEW QUESTIONS?

1 WILL IT HARM ANYTHING RUNNING STOCK WRX INJECTORS FOR NOW?
2. IS THERE A OPENSOURCE MAP OUT THERE FOR MY CAR UNTILL I CAN MAKE IT TO GET A TUNE BY YOU?
3. ANYTHING ELES I SHOULD BE CONCERNED WITH RIGHT NOW?

[-=AKA=-]

SUBSCRIBE

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Bren, when replacing an oil pump, anything special I should do to it? Also, is the fujibond I used on the oil pan cool to use on this as well?

ed

I don't remember off hand to be honest - it's been a while.

But I would recommend the 08 Sti oil pump 11mm :)

[BG @ BrenTuning]

BREN, I INSTALLED A VF39 INTO MY 04 WRX THIS WEEKEND, FEW QUESTIONS?

1 WILL IT HARM ANYTHING RUNNING STOCK WRX INJECTORS FOR NOW?
2. IS THERE A OPENSOURCE MAP OUT THERE FOR MY CAR UNTILL I CAN MAKE IT TO GET A TUNE BY YOU?
3. ANYTHING ELES I SHOULD BE CONCERNED WITH RIGHT NOW?

Yes, I can provide a map for that setup for sure.

What is it current tuned with and mods? How is it controlling boost, and what boost lines are you using on the vf39, the ones that came with turbo or swapped off your td04??

You can essentially run it this way, the car would have to be detuned to such low boost levels to be happy with the stock injectors. This is something I could do however.

Please keep your foot out of it for the time being.

[squeethebee]

I don't remember off hand to be honest - it's been a while.

But I would recommend the 08 Sti oil pump 11mm :)

Oh buddy, I have an 11mm sitting 6ft away from me:D

Ok, so you are not sure on the oil, here's a different question:

I have a new water pump to put in, and bought a metal gasket from Subaru, should I use some water pump gasket maker too?

ed

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Oh buddy, I have an 11mm sitting 6ft away from me:D

Ok, so you are not sure on the oil, here's a different question:

I have a new water pump to put in, and bought a metal gasket from Subaru, should I use some water pump gasket maker too?

ed

Good choice!

IIRC, Water pump you simply clean the surfaces and replaces with new gaskets, while with oil pump you will want to add sealant on the surface along with the o ring, via hondabond or fujibond :)

Good luck.

[squeethebee]

Thanks dude. I will be replacing the crank seal as well, is that what you mean?

ed

[Bu11dogg2]

hey guys/gals,


it's my understanding that Bren created this thread to ask questions and provide answers NOT to debate vendors.

If you have a vendor review please post it in the Vendor Review Section

http://www.newenglandsubarus.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=49

[Street Burner]

current mods.
helix dp with high flow cat
3" ansa catback
soon catless up-pipe
spt intake
stage 2 map open source






Yes, I can provide a map for that setup for sure.

What is it current tuned with and mods? How is it controlling boost, and what boost lines are you using on the vf39, the ones that came with turbo or swapped off your td04??

You can essentially run it this way, the car would have to be detuned to such low boost levels to be happy with the stock injectors. This is something I could do however.

Please keep your foot out of it for the time being.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

hey guys/gals,


it's my understanding that Bren created this thread to ask questions and provide answers NOT to debate vendors.

If you have a vendor review please post it in the Vendor Review Section

http://www.newenglandsubarus.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=49

Agreed, however I am the first to back a tuner up who is falsely accused in most cases. There is just so much that can go wrong pre-tune :spin:

[BG @ BrenTuning]

current mods.
helix dp with high flow cat
3" ansa catback
soon catless up-pipe
spt intake
stage 2 map open source

definitely get an uppipe on with the vf39 :cool:

can you tell me the lines you used on the turbo, td04 or vf39?

Do you have the ability to flash and log? send an email over to brentuning@gmail.com for a map when you're ready.

[Street Burner]

the lines where on the vf39. How late are you open on friday i have to go to airforce drill in westfield i can stop by on my way to have you check it out. but money is tight right now so i cant really get the tune right now. and i am planning on getting the sti pinks and fule pump before I have you tune it anyway. Will it hurt or help me to hold off on the up pipe for right now.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

the lines where on the vf39. How late are you open on friday i have to go to airforce drill in westfield i can stop by on my way to have you check it out. but money is tight right now so i cant really get the tune right now. and i am planning on getting the sti pinks and fule pump before I have you tune it anyway. Will it hurt or help me to hold off on the up pipe for right now.

definitely send me an email about friday, brentuning@gmail.com. I have some options for you so we don't fill up this thread :)

[-=AKA=-]

the lines where on the vf39. How late are you open on friday i have to go to airforce drill in westfield i can stop by on my way to have you check it out. but money is tight right now so i cant really get the tune right now. and i am planning on getting the sti pinks and fule pump before I have you tune it anyway. Will it hurt or help me to hold off on the up pipe for right now.
you swapped a turbo without doing the uppipe? You were more than 9/10s done to doing the uppipe :eek:

[BG @ BrenTuning]

you swapped a turbo without doing the uppipe? You were more than 9/10s done to doing the uppipe :eek:

:spin:

[BG @ BrenTuning]

bump, any more questions for your winter builds?

[squeethebee]

Have to buy spark plugs for my 2.0, going to get NGK Iridium's, should I go stock or one step colder?

ed

[BG @ BrenTuning]

I prefer one step colder per with 60+whp over stock

[mdungelman]

I've got a question:

Is there a downside to running 93 octane fuel when my ECU is tuned for 91?

[BG @ BrenTuning]

I've got a question:

Is there a downside to running 93 octane fuel when my ECU is tuned for 91?

Not so much, the difference at least in NE is minimal. It will offer a slight knock buffer in the sense of heatsoak or high humidity.

Oh the contrary 91 in the west coast is like our 89.

[bigd_wright]

How are you with Agency power injectors as far as tuning goes? car=02 WRX
my current setup is
short ram intake with K&N cone filter (looking for an SPT)
3" turbo back exhaust
04' WRX gutted up-pipe
Sti top mount
Open source ecu reflash stage 2

new setup YET to go in...
some form of a boost controller...have access to a GM boost solenoid if thats something easy too tune?
BPM turbo inlet
VF39 turbo
Agency Power 740CC injectors
Sti fuel pump
also want a EWG setup at some point.

Any suggestions on what else i should get??

[BG @ BrenTuning]

How are you with Agency power injectors as far as tuning goes? car=02 WRX
my current setup is
short ram intake with K&N cone filter (looking for an SPT)
3" turbo back exhaust
04' WRX gutted up-pipe
Sti top mount
Open source ecu reflash stage 2

new setup YET to go in...
some form of a boost controller...have access to a GM boost solenoid if thats something easy too tune?
BPM turbo inlet
VF39 turbo
Agency Power 740CC injectors
Sti fuel pump
also want a EWG setup at some point.

Any suggestions on what else i should get??

I don't recommend anything agency power because there is no R&D it's simply a taiwanese replicated copy which is scary as far as fuel system parts go. Odds are they are just drilled and rebadged stockers that are fine, but still. AP is a division of cheap labor part design and stealing as associated with Vivid Racing who ripped 100s of 1000s of dollars from Nasioc members. Hard to support that. /rantoff

I recommend Duetchwerks DW injectors.

I also recommend for a 2L VF39, a hallman or forge MBC. Colder plugs and EWG work great as well.

[bigd_wright]

DW injectors...what CC's? also Sti TMIC will be ok?

[bigd_wright]

Also my wife has a 09 Forester N/A. do you have any tuning for these? its a slusho-matic though...:unamused:

[BG @ BrenTuning]

DW injectors...what CC's? also Sti TMIC will be ok?

DW 740's

sti tmic works fine, a better flowing tmic as far as pressure drop is more ideal for that setup.

[bigd_wright]

DW 740's

sti tmic works fine, a better flowing tmic as far as pressure drop is more ideal for that setup.
Any specific brand better than others for TMIC? i dont want to break the bank but want something decent...would you recommend a FMIC setup?

[Seraphinwolf]

Any thoughts on NA tuning an OBD1 vehicle? I don't think it's gonna be anytime soon that I can get the money together for a Hydra for the SVX when I so badly want to get my Impreza running.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Any specific brand better than others for TMIC? i dont want to break the bank but want something decent...would you recommend a FMIC setup?

I wouldn't FMIC on a 2L with a VF. They feel too dull around town.

I would suggest a hyperflow TXS, or a "good" ebay one just for the pressure drop alone.

All budget aside I would go for Spearco :cool::cool:

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Any thoughts on NA tuning an OBD1 vehicle? I don't think it's gonna be anytime soon that I can get the money together for a Hydra for the SVX when I so badly want to get my Impreza running.

The support and options are more then limited, seems only 1-2 people doing it. I've never looked into it.

B

[Seraphinwolf]

Thanks Bren. Loons like ECUTune.com till I can save for a Hydra it is.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

ah that's the name. You may want to talk to the guy with the 07 sti converted svx, Bobby - as he went through this whole thing a couple years ago when he was one of my neighbors.

[Oscar_Meyer]

(JAKKIN THE THREAD)...

I love this thread and how helpful U are to everyone... I know more folk in business that would give out a 900 number for the type of advice UR giving....:up:

I have dealt with a list of things regarding my car, mostly the delicate nature of how a particular shop was falling apart when I got involved with their product. About the only thing I have ever regretted about UR arrival here was its timing... I HAD JUST committed myself to having a new pipe and tuning done to my car... Using U as an option came just a little to late...

and I have been dying to post a picture of an old guitar tuner and then ask U how to get it to stage three...



( U can have UR thread back now...)

[bigd_wright]

Also my wife has a 09 Forester N/A. do you have any tuning for these? its a slusho-matic though...:unamused:

THIS??

[shtbxr22]

any updates from the folks at romraider?......merry christmas to me??? ;)

[BG @ BrenTuning]

THIS??

B9 Tribeca
06 D0XJ002B (AT)*
07 D2UG101B (AT)*
Baja Turbo
04 A2ZJ500K (AT)*, A2ZJ500L (MT)*
05 A2WC400K (AT)*, A2WC500K (AT)*, A2WC500L (MT)*, A2WC501L (MT)*
06 A2WF100K (AT)*, A2WF100L (MT)*, A2WF101K (AT)*, A2WF101L (MT)*
Forester 2.5
05 E2ZJ121H (MT/AT)*
06 E2VG211D (MT/AT)*
07 E2VG221D (MT/AT)*
08 E2TB011I (AT)*
09 EZ1G109K (MT)*
Forester XT
04 A2ZJ201D (AT)*, A2ZJ500I (MT)*, A2ZJ512I (MT)*
05 A2WC400D (AT)*, A2WC400I (MT)*, A2WC410D (AT)*, A2WC410I (MT)*, A2WC411I (MT)*, A2WC412D (AT)*, A2WC412I (MT)*
06 A8DH100I (MT)*, A8DH101D (AT)*, A8DH101I (MT)*
07 A8DK100D (AT)*
07/08 A8DK100I (MT)*
09 AZ1G101R (AT)*
Impreza 2.5i
06 E2UE202L (MT)*, E2VH100C (MT/AT)*, E2VH101C (MT/AT)*, E2VH102C (MT/AT)*, E2VH111C (MT/AT)*, E2VH112C (MT/AT)*, E2VH202C (MT/AT)*
07 E2UE101L (AT)*, E2UE102L (MT)*
08 EZ1E102G (MT)*, EZ1E102H (AT)*
08/09 EZ1E401G (MT)*
Impreza 2.5RS
05 E2ZJ101G (MT/AT)*, E2ZJ103G (MT/AT)*, E2ZJ111G (MT/AT)*, E2ZJ113G (MT/AT)*, E2ZJ121G (MT/AT)*, E2ZJ123G (MT/AT)*, E2ZJ133G (MT/AT)*
Impreza STi
A4TJ1X00 (MT/AT)
04 A2ZJ500J (MT)*, A2ZJ700J (MT)*, A2ZJ710J (MT)*
05 A2ZJB10J (MT)*, A2ZJB11J (MT)*
06 A2ZJE11J (MT)*
07 A2UG000J (MT)*, A2UJ000J (MT)*
08/09 AZ1G201I (MT)*, AZ1G202I (MT)*
10 AZ1G701I (MT)*
Impreza WRX
02 A4SG900C (MT/AT), A4SGA00C (MT/AT), A4SGC00C (MT/AT), A4SGD10C (MT/AT), A4SGE00C (MT/AT), A4SGE01C (MT/AT)
03 A4TC101K (AT), A4TC101L (MT), A4TC300K (AT), A4TC300L (MT), A4TC400L (MT), A4TC401L (MT)
04 A4TF300E (AT), A4TF300F (MT), A4TF400E (AT), A4TF500F (MT), A4TF510E (AT), A4TF510F (MT), A4TF520F (MT)
05 A4TF7000 (MT), A4TF800E (AT), A4TF800F (MT), A4TF810F (MT)
06 A8DH200W (AT)*, A8DH200X (MT)*, A8DH201X (MT)*, A8DH202X (MT)*
07 A8DK100W (AT)*, A8DK100X (MT)*, A8DK101X (MT)*
08 AZ1E401A (MT)*, AZ1E401B (AT)*
09 AZ1G401V (MT)*
Legacy 2.5i
08 EZ1D105C (MT)*, EZ1D201D (AT)*
09 EZ1D302B (AT)*, EZ1D302C (MT)*, EZ1D302D (AT)*
Legacy 3.0R
09 D2TC001P (AT)*
Legacy GT spec.B
07 A2UG000L (MT)*, A2UI001L (MT)*
08 A2TB000L (MT)*, A2TB001L (MT)*
Legacy GT
05 A2WC500C (AT)*, A2WC500N (MT)*, A2WC510C (AT)*, A2WC510N (MT)*, A2WC511C (AT)*, A2WC511N (MT)*, A2WC521C (AT)*, A2WC521N (MT)*, A2WC522N (MT)*
06 A2WF200C (AT)*, A2WF200N (MT)*
07 A2UG000C (AT)*, A2UG000N (MT)*, A2UI001C (AT)*
08 A2TB000N (MT)*
Legacy/Outback GT/XT
08 A2TB001C (AT)*
08/09 A2TB001N (MT)*
Outback 2.5i
06 E2VG222B (MT/AT)*
Outback XT
05 A2WC500R (AT)*, A2WC510R (AT)*, A2WC510S (MT)*, A2WC511R (AT)*, A2WC521R (AT)*, A2WC522S (MT)*
06 A2WF200R (AT)*, A2WF200S (MT)*
Tribeca
09 DZ1E402B (AT)*

Is it MT above?

[BG @ BrenTuning]

any updates from the folks at romraider?......merry christmas to me??? ;)

One of their top developers now works for Cobb, I think updates may be slower now :(

[BG @ BrenTuning]

(JAKKIN THE THREAD)...

I love this thread and how helpful U are to everyone... I know more folk in business that would give out a 900 number for the type of advice UR giving....:up:

I have dealt with a list of things regarding my car, mostly the delicate nature of how a particular shop was falling apart when I got involved with their product. About the only thing I have ever regretted about UR arrival here was its timing... I HAD JUST committed myself to having a new pipe and tuning done to my car... Using U as an option came just a little to late...

and I have been dying to post a picture of an old guitar tuner and then ask U how to get it to stage three...



( U can have UR thread back now...)

Thanks! Keep me in mind for your STi.

[squeethebee]

Pretty sure Dan's wifey rig is AUTOTRAGIC!!!

ed

[RCKSTR]

Pretty sure Dan's wifey rig is AUTOTRAGIC!!!

ed


true story :unamused:

[shtbxr22]

:wtf:COBB!!!!!!

[Seraphinwolf]

Personal opinion on MegaSquirt2? :) I have a lead on one for a good deal unused and uncut harness that I'd love to run in the SVX. :D

[BG @ BrenTuning]

great stuff, seen miata and E30 bmw guys get them VERY setup quickly. Haphazard support - if you are intuitive I'd say it's for you.

[HOR-C]

Question, 2010 Impreza 2.5i, when looking at price per horsepower, is this car worth the extra money to go turbo? I do not plan on racing it, i have Mustangs for that, I simply want to make the car more fun to drive. I do not have a mechanic for this car to go to so i was hoping you can help. any advice would be appreciated

[-=AKA=-]

Question, 2010 Impreza 2.5i, when looking at price per horsepower, is this car worth the extra money to go turbo? I do not plan on racing it, i have Mustangs for that, I simply want to make the car more fun to drive. I do not have a mechanic for this car to go to so i was hoping you can help. any advice would be appreciated
no not worth it at all...

[Seraphinwolf]

no not worth it at all...

Agreed. The newer Legacys are just too full of pesky hinderances at every turn to try to add a turbo IMO.


And thanks for the responce Bren! :up: makes me feel even more confident about the perchace.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Question, 2010 Impreza 2.5i, when looking at price per horsepower, is this car worth the extra money to go turbo? I do not plan on racing it, i have Mustangs for that, I simply want to make the car more fun to drive. I do not have a mechanic for this car to go to so i was hoping you can help. any advice would be appreciated

Just get a tune and an intake. Makes the car way more fun to drive. I've done a few. Some suspension mods and done.

B

[Seraphinwolf]

Agreed. The newer Legacys are just too full of pesky hinderances at every turn to try to add a turbo IMO.


And thanks for the responce Bren! :up: makes me feel even more confident about the perchace.

Edit: for some reason was thinking Legacy not Impreza but the principle is the same with the new chassis.

[HOR-C]

Thanks guys for the advise!! One thing though that wasnt mentioned was exhaust... I must say, i love the boxer rumble. I just want to make the car more fun, i am not looking to make a race car. I can live with an intake, suspension, exhaust and a tune. Also, Bren, do you have a shop and would you help out a little Subaru racer wannabe like myself?? :-p

[shtbxr22]

I'm right across the river if you ever need parts installed.......

[Seraphinwolf]

+1 on help from SHTBXR. Eric is very helpful. Plus he's aSubi tech so you know it is done right.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

I'm right across the river if you ever need parts installed.......

Have this guy help you install ^^^

A simple panel filter/intake, wrx header (does it fit 2010s) and exhaust is a great combo for tuning on those cars. :cool:

[shtbxr22]

The exhaust setup on the 2010 is the same as mine, so the WRX/LGT manifold can be modded to fit just the same. :)

[BG @ BrenTuning]

The exhaust setup on the 2010 is the same as mine, so the WRX/LGT manifold can be modded to fit just the same. :)

no better info then from the technicians themselves :D

I would recommend a tune and some basic bolt ons, they transform the driveability of the car. The manifolds do wonders for the ignition timing tolerance of the car. :)

[Seraphinwolf]

Yeah too bad no such easy for EG33's or EZ30D or R

[etaks99rs]

Currently I am running a Cobb catted DP and a tune on my 05 STi. Right now I have sitting next to me:
Perrin drop in air filter
Lightweight pulley
Perrin Turbo Inlet
and I am going to be ordering a 3" catback and Grimmspeed TGV Deletes and a PNP Intake Manifold. Is there anything else that I should be getting since I will have my Intake mani off? Also I will eventually be getting a larger TMIC and a HTA68 but that won't be till the fall. Should I do injectors now or wait for the fall?

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Currently I am running a Cobb catted DP and a tune on my 05 STi. Right now I have sitting next to me:
Perrin drop in air filter
Lightweight pulley
Perrin Turbo Inlet
and I am going to be ordering a 3" catback and Grimmspeed TGV Deletes and a PNP Intake Manifold. Is there anything else that I should be getting since I will have my Intake mani off? Also I will eventually be getting a larger TMIC and a HTA68 but that won't be till the fall. Should I do injectors now or wait for the fall?

That's a good start. Injectors should be done with the turbo - no need to tune it twice. :)

[squeethebee]

So I just got my car to the garage so I was wondering...


Nothing actually, I'm just duper pumped, so I will need a map soon. How does that work exactly, since I need a map to move the car once the swap is done and will not be able to just drive to you.

ed

[BG @ BrenTuning]

what injectors and airbox will you be using?

[squeethebee]

Stockie WRX injectors at the moment and STI airbox. So...

2.0L
td04
el headers/up-pipe
3" TBE
TGV Delete
perrin inlet
BIG tmic
stock BPV
ngk iridiums 1 step colder
lite weight crank pulley(does that matter?)

that's it I think.

ed

[ECS Performance]

Hey Bren, I just got your VM.. I'll call you Monday..

-Paul

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Hey Paul - talk to you soon man. Hope you had a good weekend.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Stockie WRX injectors at the moment and STI airbox. So...

2.0L
td04
el headers/up-pipe
3" TBE
TGV Delete
perrin inlet
BIG tmic
stock BPV
ngk iridiums 1 step colder
lite weight crank pulley(does that matter?)

that's it I think.

ed

Easy stuff for a break in tune. Just let me know when. What about boost control? MBC is calling your name.

[squeethebee]

I was thinking run wastegate boost till I am certain everything is working like it should, you know what I mean?

ed

[squeethebee]

And didn't you have a favorite MBC to tune with? Let me know what that is and I'll look into picking one up!

ed

[squeethebee]

Also, Turbo blanket with a tmic, do you think it's worth it?

ed

[BG @ BrenTuning]

And didn't you have a favorite MBC to tune with? Let me know what that is and I'll look into picking one up!

ed

forge MBC or hallman pro RX with the upgraded spring.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Also, Turbo blanket with a tmic, do you think it's worth it?

ed

Anything to keep heat off the tmic. I always liked wrapping the downpipe. Turbo blankets never seem to fit the small turbos right, not sure how effective they are.

[squeethebee]

I have always heard bad things about wrapping, in NE specifically, as it traps salt and rots the dp away...

ed

[BG @ BrenTuning]

I have always heard bad things about wrapping, in NE specifically, as it traps salt and rots the dp away...

ed

Well get a good SS or coated DP to start. Then maybe over 8-10 years. It's far more effective then spray coating IMO.

But, don't listen to me I don't drive my cars in the winter :spin:

[squeethebee]

Hah, I remember one particular M3 out in some not so hospitable weather recently!

Anyways, about MBC's, for the Forge, did you mean the UNOS one, or the regular one? And on the RX, I get the gist it comes with 2 springs, is one of those the "upgraded"??

ed

[BG @ BrenTuning]

UNOS, yes :) each click is .25 of a lb of boost. Very precise.

The RX maxes out at wastegate-ish boost with the "stock" spring. The other one in the box works mint though.

[jwebsta32]

I got RX with upgraded spring...ITS NICE

[BG @ BrenTuning]

I got RX with upgraded spring...ITS NICE

:devil:

[squeethebee]

Question for the mighty tuner....

I have a TD04 AND a VF39, I was planning on running the TD until spring when I get injectors, then upgrading to VF. Should I stick with that plan, or run the VF on a more conservative tune and get injectors after the fact?

ed

[megalomaniac]

Hi There,

I ahve a 2005 forester MT NA with ECU e2zj123h. It looks like this one is not supported by romraider, but the e2zj121h is. Do you think I could use that definition without screwing up my ECU?

OR

Would you be willing to tune my rom for a short ram I just added??

THANKS!
Nick

[BG @ BrenTuning]

123 from 121 is probably a late model/year revision. From what I've seen they are the same thing. What I've found with those roms is some logger definitions and learning view specifically don't work on that model so it requires a little more work to get it right.

Are you doing your own flashing? I could tune that setup.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Question for the mighty tuner....

I have a TD04 AND a VF39, I was planning on running the TD until spring when I get injectors, then upgrading to VF. Should I stick with that plan, or run the VF on a more conservative tune and get injectors after the fact?

ed

Cut your stock injectors and VF right away :spin::spin:

[squeethebee]

Uhh, I don't think I'll be doing that:lol: Not a fan of how awesome and perfect clipped injectors flow.

Besides, just installed TD tonite!

ed

[megalomaniac]

123 from 121 is probably a late model/year revision. From what I've seen they are the same thing. What I've found with those roms is some logger definitions and learning view specifically don't work on that model so it requires a little more work to get it right.

Are you doing your own flashing? I could tune that setup.
Yeah, I'm doing my own flashing, do you want my stock ROM?

Thanks

[sabs8571]

Almost done gathering together all the parts I need for my vf39 setup on 06 WRX. Right now I'm stage 2 so already have downpipe and catback. What other mods would you recommend for one of your tunes? Looking to make around 290-300whp. Once I get this all installed I will have to make an appointment with you (live in shrewsbury).

So far I have:

sti tmic
walbro 255 lph fuel pump
ngk Iridium one step colder spark plugs
vf39
stock 06 wrx injectors are fine for vf so didnt touch those.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Yeah, I'm doing my own flashing, do you want my stock ROM?

Thanks

send it over, I can make you a nice tuned file if you would like.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Almost done gathering together all the parts I need for my vf39 setup on 06 WRX. Right now I'm stage 2 so already have downpipe and catback. What other mods would you recommend for one of your tunes? Looking to make around 290-300whp. Once I get this all installed I will have to make an appointment with you (live in shrewsbury).

So far I have:

sti tmic
walbro 255 lph fuel pump
ngk Iridium one step colder spark plugs
vf39
stock 06 wrx injectors are fine for vf so didnt touch those.

Great research, you got all the bases covered. I would say add a hallman pro rx or forge mbc to that list for the perfect setup.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Uhh, I don't think I'll be doing that:lol: Not a fan of how awesome and perfect clipped injectors flow.

Besides, just installed TD tonite!

ed

Send them out then! Or buy them pre-drilled. There is the cheap way of doing things, and then there is the right way of doing things. BrenTuning (tm) supports and tunes both budgets :lol:

[squeethebee]

I'll be buying DW's later in the year and putting the VF in then, haha. I'd like to do things the right way, but only pay the cheap way for the tune:lol:

ed

[megalomaniac]

Here is my stock ROM, after installing the short ram I have a dead spot on WOT at 1500-1700 RPM, at which point it looks like the MAF Voltage goes above 3V (???).

http://www.romraider.com/forum/download/file.php?id=10790

Thanks!
Nick

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Thanks,

That dead spot is normal with short rams. I'll get back to you soon.

[ryebread929]

Hey bren, Still liking my stage 2 but im ready for the VF52 swap. found a good deal on a TXS Intake, should i grab it for the vf52 tune or stick with my airbox mod with the perrin drop in? also other than the walbro and forge unos will i need anything else?

Finally any word on Launch Control for the 08+ yet???

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Hey bren, Still liking my stage 2 but im ready for the VF52 swap. found a good deal on a TXS Intake, should i grab it for the vf52 tune or stick with my airbox mod with the perrin drop in? also other than the walbro and forge unos will i need anything else?

Finally any word on Launch Control for the 08+ yet???

TXS intake is fine, and launch control is here, just a slightly adjusted price for it :cool:. Did you get the VF52 yet. You seem to have everything. Intercoolers are the other route.

[MikeyMeyagi]

on a rotated mount gt35r, what setup is better, draw through or blow through maf, in your opinion?

[ryebread929]

TXS intake is fine, and launch control is here, just a slightly adjusted price for it :cool:. Did you get the VF52 yet. You seem to have everything. Intercoolers are the other route.


yea i have the vf52, the intake and the other crapola.

should i use the 50-50 txs BOV or my stock BPV? i can just bring both i guess lol..... cant wait to get some more tuning!

[BG @ BrenTuning]

on a rotated mount gt35r, what setup is better, draw through or blow through maf, in your opinion?

I would prefer blow through maf

[MikeyMeyagi]

I would prefer blow through maf
any particular reason?

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Everyone has their preference.

more room and compatibility for various intake setups, no worry about collapsing problems at high boost. More accuracy when tuned correctly, etc.

Maf may peg sooner, and you should be careful about bends near the maf housing, however when done correctly - it works.

[megalomaniac]

Thanks,

That dead spot is normal with short rams. I'll get back to you soon.
Hi Bren,

As a side note, I am wondering what else I can do to increase HP, dollar for HP what do you recommend first?

Any progress on the tune (no hurry, I'm in the process of planning a move from Syracuse, NY to Indianapolis. . . )?


Thx,
Nick

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Hi Bren,

As a side note, I am wondering what else I can do to increase HP, dollar for HP what do you recommend first?

Any progress on the tune (no hurry, I'm in the process of planning a move from Syracuse, NY to Indianapolis. . . )?


Thx,
Nick

Nick

I will need your stock rom first - (I didn't get your email)

[megalomaniac]

Bren,

Rom Emailed, Thanks!

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Bren,

Rom Emailed, Thanks!

I can't open it, no definition - did you have any luck?

[etaks99rs]

I know there is no set number but around where does power become unsafe/unreliable on stock STi internals and drivetrain? 400whp ish?

[BG @ BrenTuning]

pump gas, SAFE SAFE, IMO 400whp.

07 STi? hit or miss but I'd say quite a bit less.

[etaks99rs]

Its an 05 and thanks! Good to know.

[chadsti]

I have a 2006 sti. it is at a stage 2 now running a v1 accesport. I want to start collecting parts for a little bit bigger turbo for it. i'm planning on doing tvg deletes and spacers. and would like to stay with a tmic, probably would get a perrin. what turbo/ injector size would you recommend? i'm not really looking for a horsepower goal to hit, i just want something that is a little more then stock but i don't want one the spools slow and will hurt the reliability of the car.

also when i do get it tuned what do you do it on? i have a friend who has a diesel and he has a little box with switches that controls different maps. is there any way we could set something like that up with like a race map with launch control and flat footed shifting, a street performance map, and a economy mode map?

[squeethebee]

HTA68!!!

ed

[BG @ BrenTuning]

I have a 2006 sti. it is at a stage 2 now running a v1 accesport. I want to start collecting parts for a little bit bigger turbo for it. i'm planning on doing tvg deletes and spacers. and would like to stay with a tmic, probably would get a perrin. what turbo/ injector size would you recommend? i'm not really looking for a horsepower goal to hit, i just want something that is a little more then stock but i don't want one the spools slow and will hurt the reliability of the car.

also when i do get it tuned what do you do it on? i have a friend who has a diesel and he has a little box with switches that controls different maps. is there any way we could set something like that up with like a race map with launch control and flat footed shifting, a street performance map, and a economy mode map?

You still have alot left to go on the stock turbo if you would like to custom tune it. I'd test those waters before deleting tgvs and spacers. Small gains for not much more. I can set the map up for on demand LC and FFS, it only activates if you want to engage it and does not interfere with street driving.

If you were looking for a bump up: HTA68, or a FP Green. 850 injectors and a walbro 255 to follow it. I'd skip the Perrin and get a Spearco TMIC as well :D.

I currently don't plan to tune AP v1's as open source has made it nearly obsolete.

[jwebsta32]

I like my Dom 2.5 r. Wish I had the xtr one tho

[BG @ BrenTuning]

I like my Dom 2.5 r. Wish I had the xtr one tho


My opinion is max the stock 39 or go 55+lb bolt on turbo. The lag is nearly similar and the power is really there. Everything in between falls short. I have seen full spool at ~3150 on a 2.5L with an 57lb HTA Green, pump gas, catted in 4th.

Although, WRX transmissions need not apply. :spin:

[chadsti]

You still have alot left to go on the stock turbo if you would like to custom tune it. I'd test those waters before deleting tgvs and spacers. Small gains for not much more. I can set the map up for on demand LC and FFS, it only activates if you want to engage it and does not interfere with street driving.


yeah that would probably be the best route to go for now. where in MA are you located?

[BG @ BrenTuning]

central MA. Worcester area.

[P-ROCK08]

hey,

i currently have a 08 wrx,

AEM cold air intake
Spt catback exhaust
cobb ap stage 1

i am looking at getting a dp and running stage 2, do you provide tunes for this setup, and what kind of power gains would i be looking at?

Thanks

[ObnoxiousWagon]

so i have an 05 wrx wagon that currently only has a cbe and a cai on it. i was gonna get a tune after my vf39 setup was done but everything that i had slowly accumulated for that setup was stolen over the summer when my works shop was broken into :spin:. so my question was should i still go ahead and get a tune with what i have right now and if so what would u charge roughly to do so.

also this is what i previously had:

vf39
sti injectors
sti tmic
catless uppipe
catless dp
walbro 255lph fuel pump
ngk one step colder plugs
forge mbc

would you get anything different or anything in addition to this? because i plan to still do this setup in the future whenever i get the funds again

[BG @ BrenTuning]

so i have an 05 wrx wagon that currently only has a cbe and a cai on it. i was gonna get a tune after my vf39 setup was done but everything that i had slowly accumulated for that setup was stolen over the summer when my works shop was broken into :spin:. so my question was should i still go ahead and get a tune with what i have right now and if so what would u charge roughly to do so.

also this is what i previously had:

vf39
sti injectors
sti tmic
catless uppipe
catless dp
walbro 255lph fuel pump
ngk one step colder plugs
forge mbc

would you get anything different or anything in addition to this? because i plan to still do this setup in the future whenever i get the funds again

That's a perfect setup, maybe an external wastegate if you could deal with the noise. But honestly that's exactly how I would do it if I was asked too.

Let me know if you'd like a tune for the time being, there's alot on the table even stage 1.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

hey,

i currently have a 08 wrx,

AEM cold air intake
Spt catback exhaust
cobb ap stage 1

i am looking at getting a dp and running stage 2, do you provide tunes for this setup, and what kind of power gains would i be looking at?

Thanks

I would absolutely get a full downpipe and complete a custom tune. You will not need the Accessport and you can recover your $ from there. You would be looking at 30-35 more hp then what you have now. You could recoup a good of money selling the AP and going with a custom map for your vehicle.

Check out DHGurs, ryebread929, or Broswrx for 08 WRX comparisons of my tunes vs. a cobb AP.

[P-ROCK08]

Yea that is what i was thinking, it might suck taking a lose on the AP but i could prob sell it later. So how much does i tune like that run?

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Yea that is what i was thinking, it might suck taking a lose on the AP but i could prob sell it later. So how much does i tune like that run?

PM sent

[ObnoxiousWagon]

That's a perfect setup, maybe an external wastegate if you could deal with the noise. But honestly that's exactly how I would do it if I was asked too.

Let me know if you'd like a tune for the time being, there's alot on the table even stage 1.


nice to know thats a good setup, ill have to start pickin the parts up again once funds are available. i would totally like to still do a tune, ill get in touch with you within a couple weeks, i wish i could sooner but stupid valentines day has robbed me of my extra money :shrug: if u could pm me with a ballpark figure for a stage 1 tune that would be awesome

[tC2WRX]

Bren can you call me ASAP? TX.

[bigd_wright]

Hey man Just wondering about a tune for a 1991 Legacy SS. Whats available and if i have a PP6 can you tune it??

[chadsti]

would you recommend bigger injectors on my stage 2 sti? i want to get the most out of my stock turbo i can.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

would you recommend bigger injectors on my stage 2 sti? i want to get the most out of my stock turbo i can.

you can just fall under what the car is really good for (safely) with the stock injectors, just get a walbro.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Hey man Just wondering about a tune for a 1991 Legacy SS. Whats available and if i have a PP6 can you tune it??

Never used a PP6.......

[Pulski]

While on the subject, how big are my injectors? I think I may have asked you before, but I can't recall.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

550~

[bratman18]

So You know my current situation from my thread. So from what you have said, and I just had someone else that had their Forester open source tuned tell me that this can be fixed with just a tune. So you definitely think you could fix this?? You can reply here, or through the pm. Thanks again!

[bratman18]

So you know my situation from my thread. From what you have already said, and from what I heard from someone who just had their FXT tuned, this can be fixed with a tune. So you definitely sure this is possible? I really want to get this resolved. You can either reply here or through the pm. Thanks again!

[bratman18]

So you know my situation from my thread. From what you have already said, and from what I heard from someone who just had their FXT tuned, this can be fixed with a tune. So you definitely sure this is possible? I really want to get this resolved. You can either reply here or through the pm. Thanks again!

[TurboRush]

I have a 2006 WRX Wagon I use as a daily driver, has nothing more than a cat back exhaust, but I feel like based on what I've read I can def improve drive-ability/smoothness/power with a tune even in stock form.

Thoughts? Worth it on a 99% stock car or should I just add a couple more bolt ons to make it worth it? (Note, as I said this is my daily driver and I dont want anything obnoxious and ease of use is extremely important to me as I spend too much time in Boston traffic).

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Hello TurboRush,

The factory car has alot of power and non-power related tables that when calibrated can make the car extremely more fun, faster, and more efficient. This can translate into a better driving experience even in day to day Boston traffic.

I would recommend a downpipe and tune, or even just a tune as is with the catback for best results. We have a recent review from a custom with a 2006 with just a catback exhaust in the review section. You will be extremely impressed!

[TurboRush]

Hello TurboRush,

The factory car has alot of power and non-power related tables that when calibrated can make the car extremely more fun, faster, and more efficient. This can translate into a better driving experience even in day to day Boston traffic.

I would recommend a downpipe and tune, or even just a tune as is with the catback for best results. We have a recent review from a custom with a 2006 with just a catback exhaust in the review section. You will be extremely impressed!

Cool... I think I'll see if I can track down a DP at a good price, maybe an air intake and give you a shout.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Absolutely - the tune is key to tie it all together. Shoot me a email when you are ready.l

[Gearhead Geek]

Quick two part question.
1) are the plugs for the ej255 and ej257 the same?
2) if not, how bad would it be to run a step colder plugs for the 257 on a 255 (just for a short while prior to getting tuned)

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Quick two part question.
1) are the plugs for the ej255 and ej257 the same?
2) if not, how bad would it be to run a step colder plugs for the 257 on a 255 (just for a short while prior to getting tuned)

From my experience they are same part #.

There are no downsides to running a one step colder plug. I prefer them.

[wrxtuner82]

Okay then, I have a question I've been wondering a few months. What's the difference between taking my car to Bren, Synaptic3, EFI or any other tuning place VS. buying the Cobb AP myself?

[sabs8571]

Okay then, I have a question I've been wondering a few months. What's the difference between taking my car to Bren, Synaptic3, EFI or any other tuning place VS. buying the Cobb AP myself?

Cobb AP OTS tunes are very conservative because they are not specific to just your car. A tuner will make a map specific to your car and mods and as a result you will get more power and a better power curve ect. It's night and day difference. In my case I got open sourse tune from Bren and sold my AP, and the only negative I can think of is that you lose the ability to switch real time maps like on the AP.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

I can supply a customer with multi maps if they would like - some are setup this way. All you would need is a $70 tactrix and your personal laptop to swap between maps too.

[bigd_wright]

I can supply a customer with multi maps if they would like - some are setup this way. All you would need is a $70 tactrix and your personal laptop to swap between maps too.

Really thats awesome...now i need to buy a Tactrix cable...:cool: How much extra $$ do you charge for the multiple maps??

[wrxtuner82]

Really thats awesome...now i need to buy a Tactrix cable...:cool: How much extra $$ do you charge for the multiple maps??

Outstanding question, because now that I know, I might not buy the Cobb AP at all like I've been planning.

[Gearhead Geek]

I can supply a customer with multi maps if they would like - some are setup this way. All you would need is a $70 tactrix and your personal laptop to swap between maps too.

Where the hell can you get a tactrix for $70? lol :)

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Where the hell can you get a tactrix for $70? lol :)

They may have bumped the price recently? :(

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Really thats awesome...now i need to buy a Tactrix cable...:cool: How much extra $$ do you charge for the multiple maps??

depends what you are looking for. Valet/stock/economy/low boost/race not much on top of the original tune, but easy enough for me to do!

[Gearhead Geek]

They may have bumped the price recently? :(

$170 for a 2.0 through them, $145 for a 1.3U on eBay :(

[mdungelman]

Hey Bren, are there any negative effects from running a 3" axleback in replacement of my 2.5" axleback?

[Robk0000]

i did it on my L for 3 years prior to swap.

[mdungelman]

I remember man. Your car really did sound great. What I've got is smaller diameter piping leading up to the axleback section.

[Robk0000]

Oh i loved the way it sounded too. I had 1" header into a 2.25 mid pipe and then into the 3" cat back borla. I really liked it for a NA.

[Andrew3776]

Mod list is vf30, pinks, turbo inlet, catted tbe, gutted uppipe, walbro, and I have but havent installed a sti intercooler but might go with a fmic. Would I be close to a safe 290 whp on these mods that I have, speaking I use the sti tmic.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

on a dynojet with a very healthy car and a little bit of pushing it, yeah.

gutted uppipe and catted turboback aren't ideal for that setup though and might cost you some. So will a stock boost solenoid, unless modified but I would replace it.

[wrxtuner82]

I'm finally ready to find out about all this great tuning I've heard about from your place. I should have my car back in 2 weeks, I'll be to you before supermeet to be tuned

[BG @ BrenTuning]

:)

[Gearhead Geek]

Ok, serious question time.
How much of a difference would a turbo inlet+after maf really make in terms of numbers from your experience with the following mods:
Cobb SF Intake w/airbox
Stock TD04
4"->3" (somewhat dramatic drop right after the flange) catted DP w/cat right after the turbo + 3" turboback
Big ass eBay TMIC

The reason I ask is I've been holding off on putting on my turbo inlet (and coming down to see you for a tune) until I picked up an after-maf. But, money's tighter right now then I thought, so I really can't swing the money for an after-maf right now. I'm just debating holding off on doing the turbo inlet, or doing the inlet w/no after-maf (there is a SMALL slit in the inlet, but honestly after installing the TMIC and seeing how much better the car is running I'm wondering if it even goes all the way through) and just getting down there. I'm sick of the AP, and honestly I need to have it unmarried so I can sell it recoup some money.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

if theres a cut in the inlet you absolutely have to replace it. it's good for a few ponies and the aftermaf is negligible. I'd pass.

Inlets installed incorrectly or not sealed perfectly cause havoc so take your time and pressure test it after the fact.

[Andrew3776]

^ for some reason my inlet is constantly slipping off of the maf. I can tell when it does because under anything over 12 lbs of boost she runs choppy

[-=AKA=-]

if theres a cut in the inlet you absolutely have to replace it. it's good for a few ponies and the aftermaf is negligible. I'd pass.

Inlets installed incorrectly or not sealed perfectly cause havoc so take your time and pressure test it after the fact.
Honest truf here!

[BG @ BrenTuning]

^ for some reason my inlet is constantly slipping off of the maf. I can tell when it does because under anything over 12 lbs of boost she runs choppy

stock? maf being sealed is key for your fuel delivery.

[Andrew3776]

No I got drunk one night and ordered an obx turbo inlet. I either overtighten it or the steel ring on the inside is warped

[Gearhead Geek]

No I got drunk one night and ordered an obx turbo inlet. I either overtighten it or the steel ring on the inside is warped

Lol, the one I have waiting to go on is an OBX. It's the Samco design (since that's who they knocked off) that's odd, having the wrap go over the metal. Perhaps some not-super-sticky double sided tape or something to add friction between the wrap and maf hose would help?

[Demetry]

No I got drunk one night and ordered an obx turbo inlet. I either overtighten it or the steel ring on the inside is warped


Awesome...:lol:

[2.5guy]

^ :rofl:

[Andrew3776]

Lol, the one I have waiting to go on is an OBX. It's the Samco design (since that's who they knocked off) that's odd, having the wrap go over the metal. Perhaps some not-super-sticky double sided tape or something to add friction between the wrap and maf hose would help?
I'm going to try that. I'll rig something because it's getting annoying.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

wrap it with some double sided tape but your story is AWESOME

[Andrew3776]

Do you guys just send the maps over the pc, or would I be able to take a trip to you guys for a real tune for that price range of 150? I'm trying to avoid having to dish out another 150 for a tactix cable.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

I do both, since your close (Im in south central MA) let me tune it in person. No need to buy a tactrix.

[04Wagoon]

Bren, I plan on installing the header back exhaust, walbro and injectors myself sometime soon, then somehow getting the car to you. Im not sure when, I just moved and things are kinda crazy. Would it possibly make the trip to you without any tune, or is it too much strain on the car? I'm not too far away now... Or should I tow it?

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Bren, I plan on installing the header back exhaust, walbro and injectors myself sometime soon, then somehow getting the car to you. Im not sure when, I just moved and things are kinda crazy. Would it possibly make the trip to you without any tune, or is it too much strain on the car? I'm not too far away now... Or should I tow it?

I could email you a basemap, if no ability to flash, with an injector swap just stay out of boost and come as soon as it's done.

I've seen cars run for 4+ years on 650cc injectors on a stock wrx 420cc map :spin:

[98Wagoon]

I could email you a basemap, if no ability to flash, with an injector swap just stay out of boost and come as soon as it's done.

I've seen cars run for 4+ years on 650cc injectors on a stock wrx 420cc map :spin:


what would he need to do the basemap? a tactrix cable/program or whatever? (might be able to use this method to get my car over when the swap is done.. someday.. )

[BG @ BrenTuning]

yeah and the jumper connectors depending on the year, just like cobb ap's come with.

[04Wagoon]

Hmm... probably be cheaper to just tow it over, huh?

[BG @ BrenTuning]

you can drive it here

[wrxtuner82]

How does a dyno work? Never done one, never seen one worked. So from the time I start the car to the time that I turn if off, what happens in between?

[batorr]

Do you know how much hp/tq a 5 speed legacy 05-08 tranny handle? I just put a LGT gear set in my wrx but dont want to destroy it like i did in my wrx. it reached a peak of 396 tq when it broke 3rd gear. it's currently putting out 351tq

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Do you know how much hp/tq a 5 speed legacy 05-08 tranny handle? I just put a LGT gear set in my wrx but dont want to destroy it like i did in my wrx. it reached a peak of 396 tq when it broke 3rd gear. it's currently putting out 351tq

They seem to be sti non ra gears which are known to be OK at that torque level.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

How does a dyno work? Never done one, never seen one worked. So from the time I start the car to the time that I turn if off, what happens in between?

check out this thread.

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/how-install/135450-road-dyno-your-car-complete-noobs-guide-56k-run-away.html

[wrxtuner82]

I think that's a little more than what I wanted. I was just wondering do you like start in first, bring up, shift to second and bring it all the way, or do you start in second and bring it all the way, what do you do in that respect?

[batorr]

They seem to be sti non ra gears which are known to be OK at that torque level.
ok thanks

[BG @ BrenTuning]

I think that's a little more than what I wanted. I was just wondering do you like start in first, bring up, shift to second and bring it all the way, or do you start in second and bring it all the way, what do you do in that respect?

I think letting me do it would be far easier :lol:

[Psychoreo]

Ok so here's my plan

VF39 (already purchased)
STI TMIC (already purchased)
GMS inlet and after MAF (already purchased and installed)
COBB Catted DP and prodrive axleback (already purchased and installed)
HKS SSQV (already purchased and installed, probably going to recirc or go BTS)
565pinks (or should I go with dw650's?)
Walboro 255 (need to buy one)
BCS (Manual or electronic?)


What else am I over looking? Car's a high mileage car and I'm not looking for anything crazy at all. Just a nice bump in HP and TQ to make driving more fun.

[Psychoreo]

Correction....probably getting rid of the bov...

[Seoul4korea]

pics of the BOV/

[Psychoreo]

Bren, when you tune do you prefer EBCS or MBCS?

[etaks99rs]

He recommended the Forge UNOS MBC for me. It is really easy for him to tune with.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Bren, when you tune do you prefer EBCS or MBCS?

Depends on the setup,

MBC most of the time. Automatic cars small turbo cars, no MBC

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Ok so here's my plan

VF39 (already purchased)
STI TMIC (already purchased)
GMS inlet and after MAF (already purchased and installed)
COBB Catted DP and prodrive axleback (already purchased and installed)
HKS SSQV (already purchased and installed, probably going to recirc or go BTS)
565pinks (or should I go with dw650's?)
Walboro 255 (need to buy one)
BCS (Manual or electronic?)


What else am I over looking? Car's a high mileage car and I'm not looking for anything crazy at all. Just a nice bump in HP and TQ to make driving more fun.

Perfect setup just get a Forge and make sure you have an uppipe, a clean stock or aftermarket air filter, and new spark plugs. Ditch the BOV.

[Gearhead Geek]

Depends on the setup,

MBC most of the time. Automatic cars small turbo cars, no MBC

Would you consider a TD04 to be a small turbo (since it is, lol), or would an MBC be worth it on one? Didn't realize how cheap the Forge units are.

[BG @ BrenTuning]

I like it, depends on personal preference. It's too much on a TD04/2.5L/Auto car.

[civic si hb]

Would you consider a TD04 to be a small turbo (since it is, lol), or would an MBC be worth it on one? Didn't realize how cheap the Forge units are.


I know u were talking TD04 but I love my MBC on the VF39 (which is still pretty small, lol)

Holds boost very well for me :)

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Great setup for it. JR knows what he's doing!

Some people like solenoids - no problem. Can tune them too!

[civic si hb]

Great setup for it. JR knows what he's doing!

Some people like solenoids - no problem. Can tune them too!

Yeah Jr does great work but I didn't know about u till after Bren :(

I've admired your work and always keep an eye on your tunes.

When I build the engine to support more and do a FP green or Red you will have my biz Sir :)

Rob

[BG @ BrenTuning]

Thanks man. Can't go wrong with me or Jr.

[Psychoreo]

Forge MBC or EBCS (Do they even make one?) and yea, up pipe was a duh...I forgot to write it in lol. Oh, and plugs too :)