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subaru_crazy
11-07-2009, 01:21 PM
would the 06 wrx calipers fit my 01 rs. i like how there red and say subaru but dont need 17s for them. i would like set if they would fit.

apkarian100
11-07-2009, 01:27 PM
Yes they would, but you need some parts for them to work.

http://www.rs25.com/forums/f9/t75555-upgrading-4-2-pots-help-me-make-parts-list.html

Pulski
11-07-2009, 01:46 PM
If you only want them because they are red and say Subaru then I think need to rethink your strategy and spend the cash on a good caliper paint job and have a ton left over.

2.5guy
11-07-2009, 01:49 PM
4 pot 2 pot upgrade for the mother trucking win!!!! that is on my list of mods to come

RCKSTR
11-07-2009, 01:51 PM
If you only want them because they are red and say Subaru then I think need to rethink your strategy and spend the cash on a good caliper paint job and have a ton left over.
yep if you want them to say subaru I can sell you the high temp subaru decals I got but never put on because I picked up and put on the brembo ones that I got from Adam07specb the subaru ones are both front and rear and are still in the bag I got them shipped in so let me know via PM if you want them for cheap :cool:

Seraphinwolf
11-07-2009, 03:08 PM
Or get the JDM 4/2's.... Just a suggestion. Really if you just want them for the looks it's NOT worth it. I have friend's off RS25.com give me crap for spending money on Brembos, but it's for the performance and I got a good deal on mine. Good deals on Brembos are NOT common so I feel special and know that I'm set with brakes till I hit over 500whp at least. At that point.... I'll get the GTR brembo kit for $15k and be set for whatever power I make.

RCKSTR
11-07-2009, 03:33 PM
Or get the JDM 4/2's.... Just a suggestion. Really if you just want them for the looks it's NOT worth it. I have friend's off RS25.com give me crap for spending money on Brembos, but it's for the performance and I got a good deal on mine. Good deals on Brembos are NOT common so I feel special and know that I'm set with brakes till I hit over 500whp at least. At that point.... I'll get the GTR brembo kit for $15k and be set for whatever power I make.
I'm in the same boat as you then :cool: (but I still need to upgrade my rears :o)

Seraphinwolf
11-07-2009, 03:54 PM
I'm in the same boat as you then :cool: (but I still need to upgrade my rears :o)
I still need to get mine. Rob still has them ATM. Plus I need to get my hubs and stuff from Garage Tuning so i can actually have something to put these on.

kgj996
11-07-2009, 04:03 PM
I have a set of red 2 pot rears for sale if you want them.

subaru_crazy
11-07-2009, 06:01 PM
but i have painted calipers and it doesnt look as good as them. i like the looks and the money isnt really important. cause ill use the rs calis to upgrade the L to twin pots. two birds one stone. i mean if i can find a set that someone upgraded to stis and want to sell resonable. that and it would give me twin pot rears.

apkarian100
11-07-2009, 06:50 PM
I don't think there will be an abundance of people who upgrade from the 4/2 pots to the Brembos. The nice thing about 4/2 pots is that you have more wheel options. As for affordable 4/2 pots, you are looking at around $550 for the fronts, around $300 for the rears. You'll then need all the new hardware too.

subaru_crazy
11-07-2009, 07:14 PM
wrx went to 4pots stock i want a set i might just buy new

Seraphinwolf
11-07-2009, 09:42 PM
wrx went to 4pots stock i want a set i might just buy new
They weren't stock on all trims. think of it more like the "factory upgrade". In shourt WRX Limited's and TR's. I think that's about it. If you think money is no option why not just get the full kit from 42 Autosports on RS25.com?
http://www.rs25.com/forums/f14/t118706-new-4-pot-2-pot-brake-upgrade-kits-street-race-setups.html

subaru_crazy
11-07-2009, 10:01 PM
They weren't stock on all trims. think of it more like the "factory upgrade". In shourt WRX Limited's and TR's. I think that's about it. If you think money is no option why not just get the full kit from 42 Autosports on RS25.com?
http://www.rs25.com/forums/f14/t118706-new-4-pot-2-pot-brake-upgrade-kits-street-race-setups.html

subarupart.com i can get the same kit front 600 and the rear for 298 alot cheaper

Seraphinwolf
11-07-2009, 10:14 PM
subarupart.com i can get the same kit front 600 and the rear for 298 alot cheaper
Kit or the basic parts? and do they have the right caliper brackets to fit the RS? You know you could also upgrade to WRX hubs at the same time for fairly cheap. Anywho 42 Autosports is a full kit and is performance minded. AKA quality upgrade parts with good performance pads and SS lines and so forth. Upgrading to something like 4/2's and NOT doing SS lines would to the most hillarious waist of money I've seen and I've seen some BAD waists of money.

squeethebee
11-08-2009, 08:24 AM
What??? It would still give you better braking! My stepbrothers stock pig nose out brakes my modded wagon, doesn't have ss lines, and has stock pads. It also weighs alot more!

ed

mdungelman
11-08-2009, 08:06 PM
Upgrading to something like 4/2's and NOT doing SS lines would to the most hillarious waist of money I've seen and I've seen some BAD waists of money.


Bull****. Definitely not a hilarious waste of money.

waste: to consume, spend, or employ uselessly or without adequate return; use to no avail or profit; squander: to waste money

I'm pretty sure the return on caliper upgrades is very apparent.

2.5guy
11-08-2009, 08:30 PM
Bull****. Definitely not a hilarious waste of money.

waste: to consume, spend, or employ uselessly or without adequate return; use to no avail or profit; squander: to waste money

I'm pretty sure the return on caliper upgrades is very apparent.


Agreed stainless lines are nice but ARE NOT for a must for an imprezy or leggy but a SVX's on the other hand, well they just soo damn heavy they need all the help they can get :rofl:

tehsbean
11-08-2009, 08:43 PM
This thread makes my head hurt.

Seraphinwolf
11-09-2009, 04:41 AM
Bull****. Definitely not a hilarious waste of money.

waste: to consume, spend, or employ uselessly or without adequate return; use to no avail or profit; squander: to waste money

I'm pretty sure the return on caliper upgrades is very apparent.
I was meaning from the standpoint of planning to maximize the money you are putting into any one area. I'd rather run a stock caliper with SS lines and good fluid and pads than just throwing 4/2s without the lines or pads to put them to the real use.

Seraphinwolf
11-09-2009, 04:43 AM
Agreed stainless lines are nice but ARE NOT for a must for an imprezy or leggy but a SVX's on the other hand, well they just soo damn heavy they need all the help they can get :rofl:
Yes. Yes they do... But they do weight in not far off from an STi and less than an 08'. And yes I do run pads, lines, and rotors on the SVX.

squeethebee
11-09-2009, 07:36 AM
Everett, have you thought about having the stock calipers taken apart, sanded smooth and powdercoated? Throw a high temp Subaru sticker on, and viola! Plus, after a rebuild, your calipers would be new, smooth, red and you would have a hell of a lot more money in your pocket.

Also, you could buy new calipers, and paint those, that would probably have a higher probability of the paint not flaking off in 3 months, since the surface wouldn't be all rusty and gross. Think about that, YO!

ed

tehsbean
11-09-2009, 08:30 PM
Alright, I'm bored, waiting to hit the gym, so I'll throw in my input here.

Why do you want 4/2 pots? Is it looks? Braking distance? Fade reduction? Something else I'm missing?

Looks:
A set of 4/2POT brakes will DEFINITELY fill up the wheel a lot more, and thus introduce a lot more hotness to the car. If you're just trying to make the car look cleaner, a coat of paint on the stock brakes works just as well, and will cost about $15 - $20 vs. nearly $1500 new or (more realistically) $600 - $800 used.

Braking Distance:
Contrary to what you may think, these will increase your braking distance. OMGWTFHOW?!? Well, let's look at this...
When you slam on the brakes, your braking distance isn't limited by how much brake you have at your disposal, it's limited to tire traction. I know for a fact my 11.4" WRX brakes + Hawk HPS' + Centric Cryo-Treated rotors can lock up my Z1's (currently the third stickiest tire option on the market by the tiniest of margins, according to Tirerack's testing.) I would gain nothing but additional unsprung weight, and thus, longer braking distances from a 4POT upgrade. Would this difference be huge? I don't know how big it would be, but the brakes in question are iron calipers, which means they are quite heavy. AP Racing does make a 4 piston kit which uses the same rotors/pads as the OEM Subaru setup, but it uses Aluminum calipers, which weigh significantly less.

Fade Resistance:
Ah, now here is where the 4POTs show their stuff. Bigger rotor = bigger heatsink = less fade from the brakes. The question is, do you really need that much fade resistance? Again, from experience my current setup was just starting to fade after a dozen hard laps at SLMP this past summer. This was with street pads and 100+ degree ambient temperatures on a track that downright abuses the hell out of brakes.

Honestly, a 2.5RS with the stock N/A motor really has no need to upgrade to 4POTs, it'll only slow you down in the end (much greater unsprung weight) and you'll probably never need that much brake. You definitely will never be able to use that much brake on any tire that you can fit under the stock fenders. The only upgrade to the 4 piston calipers in your situation is brake pedal feel. The higher piston count will make pedal feedback a little more substantial, something that could be achieved with Stainless Steel brake lines (albeit not to the same degree.)

Everett, have you thought about having the stock calipers taken apart, sanded smooth and powdercoated? Throw a high temp Subaru sticker on, and viola! Plus, after a rebuild, your calipers would be new, smooth, red and you would have a hell of a lot more money in your pocket.

Also, you could buy new calipers, and paint those, that would probably have a higher probability of the paint not flaking off in 3 months, since the surface wouldn't be all rusty and gross. Think about that, YO!

ed

I wirebrushed and painted my stock calipers a long while back, over 2 years ago when I first got the car. They're still red in color, no paint has flaked or anything. They're a little grungy because they're coated in brake dust, but that cleans off. $20 and a pretty damn permanent change in appearance, definitely the route I'd recommend.

tehsbean
11-09-2009, 08:34 PM
Also, I tend to direct people to NASIOC a lot, because NASIOC has been a repository for data for the past 10+ years...

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=368072

You can ignore the first post, that's just Luke trying to sell ****, the following posts, however, are informative and worth the read.

RCKSTR
11-09-2009, 10:15 PM
did the same thing, painted my stock calipers over 4 years ago red. I've since upgraded my fronts (last year) but the rears remain and none of them ever started to flake/peel. And the fronts that I upgraded are actually painted to match the rears :up: all painted with ALOT of time and effort, taped off, scuffed down and with multiple coats!!

Plus I have those Subaru high temp brake decals for sale :cool:

subaru_crazy
11-09-2009, 10:35 PM
i just want the looks they look bettter then my painted calis

GC4-RS
11-11-2009, 12:20 PM
Ev get the 4pots, p/c em', and buy Justins decals

Pulski
11-11-2009, 07:15 PM
Alright, I'm bored, waiting to hit the gym, so I'll throw in my input here.

Why do you want 4/2 pots? Is it looks? Braking distance? Fade reduction? Something else I'm missing?

Looks:
A set of 4/2POT brakes will DEFINITELY fill up the wheel a lot more, and thus introduce a lot more hotness to the car. If you're just trying to make the car look cleaner, a coat of paint on the stock brakes works just as well, and will cost about $15 - $20 vs. nearly $1500 new or (more realistically) $600 - $800 used.

Braking Distance:
Contrary to what you may think, these will increase your braking distance. OMGWTFHOW?!? Well, let's look at this...
When you slam on the brakes, your braking distance isn't limited by how much brake you have at your disposal, it's limited to tire traction. I know for a fact my 11.4" WRX brakes + Hawk HPS' + Centric Cryo-Treated rotors can lock up my Z1's (currently the third stickiest tire option on the market by the tiniest of margins, according to Tirerack's testing.) I would gain nothing but additional unsprung weight, and thus, longer braking distances from a 4POT upgrade. Would this difference be huge? I don't know how big it would be, but the brakes in question are iron calipers, which means they are quite heavy. AP Racing does make a 4 piston kit which uses the same rotors/pads as the OEM Subaru setup, but it uses Aluminum calipers, which weigh significantly less.

Fade Resistance:
Ah, now here is where the 4POTs show their stuff. Bigger rotor = bigger heatsink = less fade from the brakes. The question is, do you really need that much fade resistance? Again, from experience my current setup was just starting to fade after a dozen hard laps at SLMP this past summer. This was with street pads and 100+ degree ambient temperatures on a track that downright abuses the hell out of brakes.

Honestly, a 2.5RS with the stock N/A motor really has no need to upgrade to 4POTs, it'll only slow you down in the end (much greater unsprung weight) and you'll probably never need that much brake. You definitely will never be able to use that much brake on any tire that you can fit under the stock fenders. The only upgrade to the 4 piston calipers in your situation is brake pedal feel. The higher piston count will make pedal feedback a little more substantial, something that could be achieved with Stainless Steel brake lines (albeit not to the same degree.)



I wirebrushed and painted my stock calipers a long while back, over 2 years ago when I first got the car. They're still red in color, no paint has flaked or anything. They're a little grungy because they're coated in brake dust, but that cleans off. $20 and a pretty damn permanent change in appearance, definitely the route I'd recommend.

Excellent information.

Keep in mind, a good paint or powdercoat job will look (Aside from the size difference) just as good as the 4 pots. How do you think they got them red?

subaru_crazy
11-11-2009, 08:31 PM
ok so if i powdercoat them will rubber from the seals hold up to the temp when i bake them

DHGurs
11-11-2009, 10:00 PM
Yes. Yes they do... But they do weight in not far off from an STi and less than an 08'. And yes I do run pads, lines, and rotors on the SVX.

:squint:

So are you saying it weighs more than the 07 WRX and less than the 08+?
That's pretty impressive when the '08 weighs less :D


I'm surprised Eric hasn't jumped in here yet. He painted his calipers recently and they look perfect.

OP Before you drop the coin on powdercoating them you may want to try painting them cause it's so damn cheap comparatively.

subaru_crazy
11-11-2009, 11:16 PM
:squint:



OP Before you drop the coin on powdercoating them you may want to try painting them cause it's so damn cheap comparatively. my dad has a powder coating gun and oven so it wont cost more then 5 dollers worth of powder there painted know and there flaking

DHGurs
11-11-2009, 11:21 PM
my dad has a powder coating gun and oven so it wont cost more then 5 dollers worth of powder there painted know and there flaking

Ahh. Well then powdercoat 'em, cause that'll be cheaper. :lol:

subaru_crazy
11-11-2009, 11:34 PM
ive never done calpers will the rubber hold up at 450 degrees bake for 30min

GC4-RS
11-12-2009, 09:53 AM
prolly not but theres gotta be a way around it

squeethebee
11-12-2009, 10:19 AM
Yeah, powder coat them, then replace all the seals.

ed

GC4-RS
11-12-2009, 12:22 PM
:up:

mdungelman
11-12-2009, 01:35 PM
my dad has a powder coating gun and oven so it wont cost more then 5 dollers worth of powder there painted know and there flaking

Seriously?:unamused:

You can strip the paint, prime, then re-paint. I'm sure powdercoating is an interesting process though.

apkarian100
11-12-2009, 08:46 PM
Powdrcote dem' sombiches!!!!!

Seraphinwolf
11-29-2009, 05:03 AM
Here you go Ev! Grab'em up before they are gone! Adapter bracket and everything!
http://www.rs25.com/forums/f14/t122541-black-friday-all-weekend-sale.html