N/A Tuning and ROMRAIDER discussion thread

[Bu11dogg2]

Found this link that is full of really good ROMRAIDER info for those N/A guys who want to dabble in the tuning field :)


http://www.romraider.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1840

more info here

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1410201


Piggy back and tuning options:

http://www.alamomotorsports.com/apexi/safc.html

http://www.perfectpower.com/products/prs.asp

http://www.megasquirt.info/

http://www.i-speed.us/

Discuss!

[GC4-RS]

^ +1234567890 thank you!

much appreciated :)

[GC4-RS]

just read through the info

some of it i understood

some i didnt


so the romraider product just has to be purchased and downloaded, then i would have to purchase the cable and get the other downloads (java/definitions etc.) right?

now i may have overlooked this, but does the romraider software walk you through the ecu changes?

[Bu11dogg2]

just read through the info

some of it i understood

some i didnt

so the romraider product just has to be purchased and downloaded, then i would have to purchase the cable and get the other downloads (java/definitions etc.) right?

now i may have overlooked this, but does the romraider software walk you through the ecu changes?


The product can be purchased from the forum in the first link.

IIRC the program you down load gives you a start, but the actual tuning needs to be done by you.

The best bet is to find a map that will work for your car and adjust it to your individual car/mods (think cobb stg2)

[GC4-RS]

and also, i noticed it said it could not be used to tune a usdm subaru built prior to 2001. mine is 97 usdm, so does this mean i am sol as far as this product is concerned?

[Bu11dogg2]

I read the same... :(

[GC4-RS]

any others you know of?

[Bu11dogg2]

I think you can piggy back it.

[morbidgorilla]

try ajusting your carbarator jets

[GC4-RS]

try ajusting your carburetor jets

:rofl:......:unamused:

i fixed for you

[morbidgorilla]

jk this actually Really helps me out

[GC4-RS]

I think you can piggy back it.

looking around for piggyback devices...

[GC4-RS]

jk this actually Really helps me out

apparently it cant be used on yours either, 04 right?

[Bu11dogg2]

apparently it cant be used on yours either, 04 right?


see OP, I just updated it

[GC4-RS]

noice!

[GC4-RS]

apexi SAFC NEO seems very user friendly, not a bad price either

i checked out the i-speed site and i noticed they're selling used coilovers from Ken Block's DC Shoes car, $1200.00

[GeoffC8]

apexi SAFC NEO seems very user friendly, not a bad price either

i checked out the i-speed site and i noticed they're selling used coilovers from Ken Block's DC Shoes car, $1200.00
safc2 was highly recomended by the turbo altima guys back in the day.

[GC4-RS]

safc2 was highly recomended by the turbo altima guys back in the day.

"turbo altima guys" :eek:

please elaborate?

[Seraphinwolf]

You are shocked at turbo Alitimas? Try turbo 3.5 6th gen Maximas with the 3.5L's. I can only imagine that in the 07+ altlimas. Especially the Nisimo AWD ones. I'd rather just get a GT-R at that point.(I'd rather get a GT-R at anypoint)
Thanks Randy. This may help with a friend's car, or if need be mine depending on funds. Damn finiky EZ's
-Gaddis

[GeoffC8]

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/forced-induction-forum-turbo-sc-tuning-technical-only/279520-post-turbo-nissan-pics.html

IIRC, ULTIMATUC has the fastest 1st gen altima (1/4 mile) out there. And Ace has one of the nicest 240's I've seen and is wicked chill in person. Even after he almost got teabaged in his sleep...

EDIT: HAD the fastest... http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/forced-induction-forum-turbo-sc-tuning-technical-only/276316-first-11-sec-altima-ever.html

EDIT2: Man, I need to start paying attention to more than just the off-topic section of that site, lol. Some good **** happening. Makes me miss my 1st gen. FWD fo lyfe :unamused:

[GC4-RS]

never realised Altimas could be that BA :eek:

i hated the GXE my wife used to own, far from an ULTIMATUC ride :lol:

[Bu11dogg2]

Turbo + FWD = fail

[GC4-RS]

thats how i feel too

im not boosted yet, but i still think AWD+NA > Turbo + FWD

[Bu11dogg2]

You can get big power out of your car without a turbo :)

[RCKSTR]

thats how i feel too

im not boosted yet, but i still think AWD+NA > Turbo + FWD
agreed, fwd ftl:lol:
awd or rwd, na or turbo, either way its a win:)

[GC4-RS]

You can get big power out of your car without a turbo :)

oh i kno, but big power = big $ when it comes to my ej22ez :(

donations are welcome! :lol:

been toying with the idea of an H6 swap...

[RCKSTR]

oh i kno, but big power = big $ when it comes to my ej22ez :(

donations are welcome! :lol:

been toying with the idea of an H6 swap...
hands down, no questions asked, do it:spin:

[GC4-RS]

it would have to be from an 02-03 outback h6 with 5spd, and then i wouldnt be able to resist driveline + brakes from it too. i need to find a wrecked one and someone to help with the swappage, im not ballin' enuf to have ECS do it, tho i'd like to.

probably have to have them merge teh harnesses tho.

[Seraphinwolf]

it would have to be from an 02-03 outback h6 with 5spd, and then i wouldnt be able to resist driveline + brakes from it too. i need to find a wrecked one and someone to help with the swappage, im not ballin' enuf to have ECS do it, tho i'd like to.

probably have to have them merge teh harnesses tho.
Check out the NASIOC H6-Impreza swap resource thread in the Conversions forum. You can see lots of other peoples. Some done some not. Like mine. Not done yet. Working on it. EZ FTMFW! R>D but D does cost less.
-Gaddis

[Pulski]

I use Romraider on my car. Works great. I didn't know ANY of the NA ECUs worked with it, but I guess they've been working on it.

[Bu11dogg2]

^it's been done ;)

[kgj996]

Where is the tuning talk and data logs!!:spin:

[morbidgorilla]

So the ecu reflash seems less benifical to a stock car

[Pulski]

They need to get this working for older cars. I have a P0420 I want to make go away on my LGT. :lol:

[TWP987]

Argh, damn that P0420!!

[GC4-RS]

new converter = no PO420 & +mpg :spin:

[Jaketips42]

The po420 code is i'd say the most common I see at work. (Subaru dealership) Their cats and tight ass environmentally friendly ecus suck. Space out your rear o2 sensor(s) with anti-foulers. Reset your ecu. Should take 3+ driving cycles if it comes back on. GL

More on the subject of NA tuning. SAFC is great. Although that was in the Nissan world with the old sentra (b-13 se-r) with the SR20. I don't really see too many people on here or rs25 using them. Guess I never really looked though. I'd like to get something as I can use it once I add a snail under the hood too.

[GC4-RS]

safc2 was highly recomended by the turbo altima guys back in the day.

seen one of these turbo altimas at the last Import Wars @ NED, pretty quick :eek:

[Bu11dogg2]

lil birdy told me EFI Logics can tune NA's

[GC4-RS]

^ good to know :up: does that include MAF cars? (nvrmnd, i'll pm them)

[Black_ice]

^ good to know :up: does that include MAF cars? (nvrmnd, i'll pm them)
I'd imagine anythings possible with those guys :D

[GC4-RS]

or not :lol: nothing they can do with MAF cars, 05+ NA's only :(

[Bu11dogg2]

upgrade ECU

[GC4-RS]

upgrade to H6 engine/ECU

i totally agree :)

[GC4-RS]

the 22ez motor will last much much longer, the transmissions on its way out tho. when the time comes it'll be a bundle purchase/swap the way im gonna go

[Pulski]

seen one of these turbo altimas at the last Import Wars @ NED, pretty quick :eek:

Bump from way back... what gen/color? Just wondering if I know them.

[Oscar_Meyer]

gosh this is alot of information to digest and some serious reading.

I suppose this is the ultimate way to tune UR car and be able to check it during every aspect of driving it.

I think I will re-visit this thread when trhe caffiene settles in.

[Bu11dogg2]

with all the new tuining options you would think this thread would get some action :dunno:

[BG @ BrenTuning]

N/A Tuning with Romraider is a blast. PM me if you are interested in getting a custom tune done.

[squeethebee]

What ECU's can you work with?

ed

[BG @ BrenTuning]

B9 Tribeca
06 D0XJ002B (AT)*
07 D2UG101B (AT)*
Baja Turbo
04 A2ZJ500K (AT)*, A2ZJ500L (MT)*
05 A2WC400K (AT)*, A2WC500K (AT)*, A2WC500L (MT)*, A2WC501L (MT)*
06 A2WF100K (AT)*, A2WF100L (MT)*, A2WF101K (AT)*, A2WF101L (MT)*
Forester 2.5
05 E2ZJ121H (MT/AT)*
06 E2VG211D (MT/AT)*
07 E2VG221D (MT/AT)*
08 E2TB011I (AT)*
09 EZ1G109K (MT)*
Forester XT
04 A2ZJ201D (AT)*, A2ZJ500I (MT)*, A2ZJ512I (MT)*
05 A2WC400D (AT)*, A2WC400I (MT)*, A2WC410D (AT)*, A2WC410I (MT)*, A2WC411I (MT)*, A2WC412D (AT)*, A2WC412I (MT)*
06 A8DH100I (MT)*, A8DH101D (AT)*, A8DH101I (MT)*
07 A8DK100D (AT)*
07/08 A8DK100I (MT)*
09 AZ1G101R (AT)*
Impreza 2.5i
06 E2UE202L (MT)*, E2VH100C (MT/AT)*, E2VH101C (MT/AT)*, E2VH102C (MT/AT)*, E2VH111C (MT/AT)*, E2VH112C (MT/AT)*, E2VH202C (MT/AT)*
07 E2UE101L (AT)*, E2UE102L (MT)*
08 EZ1E102G (MT)*, EZ1E102H (AT)*
08/09 EZ1E401G (MT)*
Impreza 2.5RS
05 E2ZJ101G (MT/AT)*, E2ZJ103G (MT/AT)*, E2ZJ111G (MT/AT)*, E2ZJ113G (MT/AT)*, E2ZJ121G (MT/AT)*, E2ZJ123G (MT/AT)*, E2ZJ133G (MT/AT)*
Impreza STi
A4TJ1X00 (MT/AT)
04 A2ZJ500J (MT)*, A2ZJ700J (MT)*, A2ZJ710J (MT)*
05 A2ZJB10J (MT)*, A2ZJB11J (MT)*
06 A2ZJE11J (MT)*
07 A2UG000J (MT)*, A2UJ000J (MT)*
08/09 AZ1G201I (MT)*, AZ1G202I (MT)*
10 AZ1G701I (MT)*
Impreza WRX
02 A4SG900C (MT/AT), A4SGA00C (MT/AT), A4SGC00C (MT/AT), A4SGD10C (MT/AT), A4SGE00C (MT/AT), A4SGE01C (MT/AT)
03 A4TC101K (AT), A4TC101L (MT), A4TC300K (AT), A4TC300L (MT), A4TC400L (MT), A4TC401L (MT)
04 A4TF300E (AT), A4TF300F (MT), A4TF400E (AT), A4TF500F (MT), A4TF510E (AT), A4TF510F (MT), A4TF520F (MT)
05 A4TF7000 (MT), A4TF800E (AT), A4TF800F (MT), A4TF810F (MT)
06 A8DH200W (AT)*, A8DH200X (MT)*, A8DH201X (MT)*, A8DH202X (MT)*
07 A8DK100W (AT)*, A8DK100X (MT)*, A8DK101X (MT)*
08 AZ1E401A (MT)*, AZ1E401B (AT)*
09 AZ1G401V (MT)*
Legacy 2.5i
08 EZ1D105C (MT)*, EZ1D201D (AT)*
09 EZ1D302B (AT)*, EZ1D302C (MT)*, EZ1D302D (AT)*
Legacy 3.0R
09 D2TC001P (AT)*
Legacy GT spec.B
07 A2UG000L (MT)*, A2UI001L (MT)*
08 A2TB000L (MT)*, A2TB001L (MT)*
Legacy GT
05 A2WC500C (AT)*, A2WC500N (MT)*, A2WC510C (AT)*, A2WC510N (MT)*, A2WC511C (AT)*, A2WC511N (MT)*, A2WC521C (AT)*, A2WC521N (MT)*, A2WC522N (MT)*
06 A2WF200C (AT)*, A2WF200N (MT)*
07 A2UG000C (AT)*, A2UG000N (MT)*, A2UI001C (AT)*
08 A2TB000N (MT)*
Legacy/Outback GT/XT
08 A2TB001C (AT)*
08/09 A2TB001N (MT)*
Outback 2.5i
06 E2VG222B (MT/AT)*
Outback XT
05 A2WC500R (AT)*, A2WC510R (AT)*, A2WC510S (MT)*, A2WC511R (AT)*, A2WC521R (AT)*, A2WC522S (MT)*
06 A2WF200R (AT)*, A2WF200S (MT)*
Tribeca
09 DZ1E402B (AT)*

[mdungelman]

N/A Tuning with Romraider is a blast. PM me if you are interested in getting a custom tune done.

Hey N/A crowd, if your car is on the list above you should have BG do some tuning. A great improvement!:devil:

[apkarian100]

No Romraider love for the GC. :(

[subaru_crazy]

rallitek makes a ecu setup for pre 2004 n/a.

[2.5guy]

What is the first year you can open source an ECU is it 2001? and if not what ecu would I have to get to be open source and what would I have to change to make it work in my 2000?

[Bu11dogg2]

^bump for above question

[Snowman87]

No Romraider love for the GC. :(

Yea whats with that... :spin:

[abenson100]

feeling the hate now. i guess im either gonna have to go PP6 or 8 or go with the AEM products. i was hoping to not have to go piggy back tho. is there a way to chip a 2000 RS ECU if so couldnt something like the moates ostrich be built.

[Bu11dogg2]

not enough long term sales...

[abenson100]

What type of chip goes into a subaru ecu? If it is the same as my civic was then you should just be able to use an ostrich. They use them on some domestic trucks and cars too i believe.

[Bu11dogg2]

Subarus don't use "chips" they either use a piggyback or ecu tune.

[abenson100]

ok. and the 00 RS has an ecu that is not reprogrammable. so that leave piggy back. what would be the recommended system to use.

[Bu11dogg2]

bump, i'm not sure

[Bu11dogg2]

bump, NA guys hardly use the NA forum :(

[98Wagoon]

ok. and the 00 RS has an ecu that is not reprogrammable. so that leave piggy back. what would be the recommended system to use.


the rallitek pp6 is one of the best tuneable/mappable piggyback systems for NA's and gc/gf's.

http://www.rallitek.com/rapeecu.html

[98Wagoon]

bump, NA guys hardly use the NA forum :(


theres about four of us and we've all be shunned into doing turbo builds to fit in :lol:

[Bu11dogg2]

:lol:

[Seraphinwolf]

theres about four of us and we've all be shunned into doing turbo builds to fit in :lol:

Or into putting our NA toys to the side and buying STi's...

Yeah PP6, GReddy eManage, and a few others are very viable. The ECU At one point could have been sent off to Cobb for a full reprogram but even then it's a set tune and not able to change. BTW These "piggy backs" are really intercepters for if you want to get into more hardcore reading about them. Piggy backs kinda mask the real signals being sent to the ECU trucking it like old school methods on V6's and V8's but doesn't work well on Subi's the PP6 and such instead run as extentions of the ECU and are much safer as it doesn't ignore key sensors.

[mdungelman]

theres about four of us and we've all be shunned into doing turbo builds to fit in :lol:

I don't feel pressured to do any sort of swapping. I'm perfectly happy with the size of my manhood, and so is she.

[Bu11dogg2]

:lol:

[Bu11dogg2]

any new input for this thread?

[Seraphinwolf]

I would sure like to see some to show a budy at work.