Me and my baby...Subaru WRX GR

[wrxtuner82]

Well, as much as I'm not sure I'm ready for a journal given what I've done...or lack thereof, I figured I'd get started. I have lots of plans in store. What I have is a Subaru WRX Spark Silver H/B purchased in September 2009, I'm not even gonna get into the issues I just went through, instead go look at my "Portsmouth Auto Body review" thread. Pics.

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs547.snc3/29937_1436076270020_1476380259_1115405_7119242_n.j pg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1115406&id=1476380259)

This is when I first bought it. Things done so far:

Invidia N1 3" catback
TurboXs RFL BOV (Hey, there website says in improves throttle respose :lol:)
Perrin Performance cold air intake, but I'm thinking of switching to the AEM instead
08+ seat modification (thank you DHGurs)
Cobb shift knob
2009 wing

Upcoming mods
Perrin lockdown system
Invidia catless divorced downpipe
For a while, my plan was Invidia headers, but I just looked and they're only available in equal length and I want unequal to keep the rumble so I might go HKS now
ISC coils
And a Bren tune in the next week or two

Distant plans??? Well, lets just get the thread started for now :)

[wrxtuner82]

and now that I've looked some more at importimageracing.com I think I'll go with the greddy unequal headers and greddy uppipe, still using the invidia catless downpipe though

[itsmy04wrx]

Pics/description of said seat mod?

[wrxtuner82]

Ask Gary about it, I saw that he did it to his STi and asked about it. It's a free mod on 08+ and it's super easy. I think it only took Gary maybe 2 or 3 minutes to do to mine and it's completely reversable. You unzip the seats, unclip two clips and zip it up again and you're done. It makes the seat sides a little more narrow I guess is the best way to put it. Feels awesome. I drove it home from Sundays meet that way and it was great.

[itsmy04wrx]

Thats pretty cool.

[wrxtuner82]

Yeah, Gary has been settin me up with all kinds of either free or super cheap under $150 mods.

[itsmy04wrx]

Those are always fun.

[wrxtuner82]

Gary talks about the seat mod in his journal on page 8. I think he started thread about it somewhere too

[Bu11dogg2]

focus on suspension before you get into big power ;)

[wrxtuner82]

Yeah, I've kinda been thinking that. I'll get tuned and then moved on to just a couple suspension pieces, sways, coils and the SLS probably

[Joe]

If you go springs, I recommend Epics. They are real nice and make our cars sit just perfect. Car looks good too, can't even tell a tree tried to take it for a drive. :up:

[FREAK]

I would def get rid of the perrin intake. Nice plans though

[Seraphinwolf]

Glad you finally got a thread going and have your baby back. You do know that it's not a GR though right? GR=Widebody third generation wagon in VIN code speak. I think it's GH isn't it? I"ll look it up later.
Ran good today though. Glad to take a ride and have you come with me up to Manch real quick.

[Seraphinwolf]

focus on suspension before you get into big power ;)
It's being hammered into his head like a jack hammer. Hopefully it stays in. Lord knows everything else that's been put in there just go right back out...:lol:

[wrxtuner82]

If you go springs, I recommend Epics. They are real nice and make our cars sit just perfect. Car looks good too, can't even tell a tree tried to take it for a drive. :up:

:rofl:

It's being hammered into his head like a jack hammer. Hopefully it stays in. Lord knows everything else that's been put in there just go right back out...:lol:

yeah yeah yeah

[Seraphinwolf]

:rofl:



yeah yeah yeah
Make it stop. Make it turn. Make it go!
The Mantra to live by!

[wrxtuner82]

In that order? Cause I wanna make it go, turn and stop

[Bu11dogg2]

:slap:

[wrxtuner82]

:lol: don't approve I take it?

[Bu11dogg2]

do a set of coils or strut spring combo before you go beyond stg2

[wrxtuner82]

Yes sir :) I'd be foolish not to take advice from you guys

[Joe]

Yes sir :) I'd be foolish not to take advice from you guys


Exactly... and you said it was an 09, cause those are 08 wheels and an 08 spoiler.....

[Seraphinwolf]

It's not an 09' premium. That's why I thought It was an 08' for the longest time also.

[Joe]

It's not an 09' premium. That's why I thought It was an 08' for the longest time also.


All 09s come with the Sti spoiler and gunmetal wheels... Like mine, which is not a premium. They all come with the ground effects kit as well.

[DHGurs]

I'm pretty sure it's an 08. Rear trim piece, wheels, etc. Even 09 non-Premiums came with rear diffuser, skirts etc. (I think that's what Pulski has)

I also looked at the vin (digit 10 is an 8, thus 2008) Gaddis is right about it being a GH too.

2008 + WRX Sedan = GE
2008+ WRX Hatch = GH
2008+STi Hatch = GR

Seat mod is great, I made an un-noticed thread on here about it. I recently learned you can do a similar thing to the 06-07 (maybe earlier) by bending the springs behind the seat.

Sway bars, steering rack bushings, and SLS are great upgrades to the 08+ and should cost under $500.

Car looks good after all the work, you really can't tell.

http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp315/DHGURS/2010%20STi/4subiesonepole.jpg

[wrxtuner82]

Exactly... and you said it was an 09, cause those are 08 wheels and an 08 spoiler.....

It's not an 09' premium. That's why I thought It was an 08' for the longest time also.

All 09s come with the Sti spoiler and gunmetal wheels... Like mine, which is not a premium. They all come with the ground effects kit as well.

I'm pretty sure it's an 08. Rear trim piece, wheels, etc. Even 09 non-Premiums came with rear diffuser, skirts etc. (I think that's what Pulski has)

I also looked at the vin (digit 10 is an 8, thus 2008) Gaddis is right about it being a GH too.

2008 + WRX Sedan = GE
2008+ WRX Hatch = GH
2008+STi Hatch = GR

Seat mod is great, I made an un-noticed thread on here about it. I recently learned you can do a similar thing to the 06-07 (maybe earlier) by bending the springs behind the seat.

Sway bars, steering rack bushings, and SLS are great upgrades to the 08+ and should cost under $500.


FINNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M IN 08 DENIAL!!!! WHATEVER, GFYS :rofl: oh well, whatever. Next.

I'm not sure what to go with for sways.... who'd you go with for SRB?

[DHGurs]

Whiteline and AVO are the only ones that make 'em for our cars. Whiteline's and AVO had fitament problems, just make sure the Whiteline kit comes with 2 bigger bushings, as one is for a LGT and the other for a STi.

You can get an 19mm SE STi rear sway with bushings for under $90, pm subaruproparts (our parts department) on the forum to see what the price is. That will make a difference.

[wrxtuner82]

Annnnnnnddddddd, now I know where $90 of my next check is going. Geez man, I'd be lost without you guys. Here I am not buying parts for my car since freakin November cause I thought everything was over $500.

[Seraphinwolf]

PM SubaruWRXParts.com also. That's Exeter's parts department. See who will cut the better deal for you! :up:
So I get to rub it in now that I was right when I said it was an 08' last year? :D(<DBag!!!)

[wrxtuner82]

Whatever, blow me, and I'll take the hit if an admin does it to me

[wrxtuner82]

For the record though, right up until last month I was still under the impression that it was an 09, it was my first subie and Singer had it all marked up as an 09,

[CTATV]

focus on suspension before you get into big power ;)

+1 I did BC coilovers LCA bushings, and HAWK HPS pads before I did power on my Legacy and in hind sight it was a great decision

[wrxtuner82]

I just wanna go fast :lol: but when I first bought the car I HAD to get the exhaust and BOV cause I hated the way it sounded factory, I needed it to sound better. I wish I was like other people and was one of those guys that could find crazy deals everywhere. Cause I'd really like to get rims, but the ones I want are $2400 new, and I don't have that kind of scratch right now.

[CTATV]

I just wanna go fast :lol: but when I first bought the car I HAD to get the exhaust and BOV cause I hated the way it sounded factory, I needed it to sound better. I wish I was like other people and was one of those guys that could find crazy deals everywhere. Cause I'd really like to get rims, but the ones I want are $2400 new, and I don't have that kind of scratch right now.

Yeah I did an access port with stage 1 tune and the Greddy EvoII catback first then did suspension before going stage 2+

[wrxtuner82]

I'm gonna heed the words of the wiser that have come before me, but damn I can't wait to get my catless DP and headers on there.

[CTATV]

I'm gonna heed the words of the wiser that have come before me, but damn I can't wait to get my catless DP and headers on there.

I bet. Thing is we dont have all straight roads in new england and having a car that hugs the corners and doesnt bounce around at high speed will make that stage II that much better. to be honest it will make that stage1 so much better

[wrxtuner82]

I know it will, again, exactly why I'll heed the things you and randy and gaddis are saying, obviously you guys know much more than I do and I LOVE all the help I'm getting.

[98Wagoon]

yeah well.. farts! go buy some parts!


rhymes. I got 'em.

[Joe]

For the record though, right up until last month I was still under the impression that it was an 09, it was my first subie and Singer had it all marked up as an 09,

I would be pissed off, and back at Singer telling them I want my freaking money back. You bought a year old car under the false impression it was something it isnt. And its not like nothing changed between those two years either. You got pwned pretty hard by them. I would raise a stink.

I just wanna go fast :lol: but when I first bought the car I HAD to get the exhaust and BOV cause I hated the way it sounded factory, I needed it to sound better. I wish I was like other people and was one of those guys that could find crazy deals everywhere. Cause I'd really like to get rims, but the ones I want are $2400 new, and I don't have that kind of scratch right now.

You could've bought mine OZs for wicked cheap :hide: :lol:

This site is the first step to finding deals. Used parts, vendors, etc are always helpful. I hear you on the noise thing, I made it 1100 miles before i got my exhaust. It was miserable how quiet the car was.

I know it will, again, exactly why I'll heed the things you and randy and gaddis are saying, obviously you guys know much more than I do and I LOVE all the help I'm getting.

:up: Thats what all these guys are here for, to dispense their massive amount of knowledge on you. I didn't know a damn thing about the technical side to these cars when i bought my 08. in the two years I have owned three different subarus, and wrenched on a ton more. My mantra is to listen first at meets, lots of knowledge on here.

[wrxtuner82]

Thanks man, I'm lookin forward to learning from everyone

[Seraphinwolf]

Yeah I'd have a little chat with Singer about it. No wonder they financed you so easily and didn't give you any gruff. As for deals...
:hide:
Let me know what you want and if I come across stuff I'll let you know. I do usually see deals on wheels. Though I pass on them a lot as they are almost always 5x100 rather than the 5x114.3 which is my cup of tea. Ask anyone if they've heard about me finding crazy deals. $715 catback brand new for $300?
:hide:

[wrxtuner82]

Sweet, keep me posted

[Diztracted]

Your car is neato.

[wrxtuner82]

Thank you Ma'am, as is yours

[Seraphinwolf]

So when might you want to go over suspension stuff now that you've gone for a find on what way to stiff a coilover?

[DHGurs]

So when might you want to go over suspension stuff now that you've gone for a find on what way to stiff a coilover?

Wat?

Are you looking at coils now?


In case you wanted to get some things, Perrin has a 20% off coupon right now.

coupon: mid20may

Order the SLS!

Gary

[98Wagoon]

So when might you want to go over suspension stuff now that you've gone for a find on what way to stiff a coilover?


:spin:

[wrxtuner82]

Wat?

Are you looking at coils now?


In case you wanted to get some things, Perrin has a 20% off coupon right now.

coupon: mid20may

Order the SLS!

Gary

Yeah, I'm buying the SLS this week, and Gaddis took me for a ride the other day to feel what his coils are like and I went for a ride with Evan (CTATV) while he was here too...So after to talking to plenty of people, I'm def gonna go with Coils instead of just drop springs like originally planned, it's just coming up with the money to get them. $1000 is a tough number to justify on what I'm making.

[Seraphinwolf]

Well just remember that you need to watch what spring rates you get on the coils and match it well with how comfortable you wanyyo keep the car and with other suspensions mods. AKA do the sways, bushing, endlinks, and such beforethe coils and you will be happier for it. My car is WAY too low and WAY too stiff for my daily driving. Though it does help with my daily driving habbits... :hide:
In short: PLAN PLAN PLAN!!!!

[wrxtuner82]

ugh, so much to take in, performance seems to be so much easier

[CTATV]

Well just remember that you need to watch what spring rates you get on the coils and match it well with how comfortable you wanyyo keep the car and with other suspensions mods. AKA do the sways, bushing, endlinks, and such beforethe coils and you will be happier for it. My car is WAY too low and WAY too stiff for my daily driving. Though it does help with my daily driving habbits... :hide:
In short: PLAN PLAN PLAN!!!!

I beg to differ I have stock sways and endlinks on my lgt with coilovers and have had great success. The coils provide the most noticable improvement so on a budget I think they should come first. Just my 50-48=2 cents

[Seraphinwolf]

I beg to differ I have stock sways and endlinks on my lgt with coilovers and have had great success. The coils provide the most noticable improvement so on a budget I think they should come first. Just my 50-48=2 cents

For him to learn suspension work before just throwing coilovers under it, I think is a best option. Coilovers are a quick easy fix for the money but not really a real "best balance" fix. Especially if ladies with more than a B are gonna be in the car. I hav coils only in the SVX but not by choice. There was no other options when I put them in. I don't know about anyone else but I like my car feeling like a racer car in the corners, and not just bouncing everywhere on a smooth straight highway cause of road debre the size of an ant.

[BrosWRX]

Nice ride! BTW Rallitek has sways that will fit your 08+. I've got'em on my car and they are pretty nice! I haven't heard them makin noise or anything and I've put some decent miles on since I've installed them.

[wrxtuner82]

sweet, I'll check em out, thanks

[CTATV]

So I'm going highlight a few things you said here..

For him to learn suspension work before just throwing coilovers under it, I think is a best option. Coilovers are a quick easy fix for the money but not really a real "best balance" fix. Especially if ladies with more than a B are gonna be in the car. I hav coils only in the SVX but not by choice. There was no other options when I put them in. I don't know about anyone else but I like my car feeling like a racer car in the corners, and not just bouncing everywhere on a smooth straight highway cause of road debre the size of an ant.



For him to learn suspension work before just throwing coilovers under it,

Is he studying to be a mechanic or does he want the best bang for his buck for handling

Coilovers are a quick easy fix for the money

well provided he isnt looking to be a mechanic you just agreed with me they are the best bang for your buck...

Especially if ladies with more than a B are gonna be in the car.

how often do you roll around with big tittied babes in your car to speak with such experience on suspension to breast size correlations?

I don't know about anyone else but I like my car feeling like a racer car in the corners, and not just bouncing everywhere on a smooth straight highway cause of road debre the size of an ant.

Mine doesn't. There's a big difference between adjusting your coils for best performance and a balance between performance and ride quality. I drive high miles on highways, in NYC, and NJ where the roads are way worse than anything around you and Connor in NH. Now im not a suspension expert, which is why I had EFI adjust my coils appropriately for me, because Jack their head mechanic knows what he's doing.

[Seraphinwolf]

Suspensions regularly can be refered to as "passing the C Cup test" often with suspension reviews as most owners happen to be male and have either a female significant other if female friends. Comfort can be an issue for them.

And you cut out the key second part of the second highlighted sentence. :P Now you want bad roads that RT27 in winter is nothing to joke about and you were on well maintained roads in the areas you went while here. NH may not be as bad as MA, which in my opinion is worse that NY or NJ roads it's still bad.

And the quick fix isn't as solid at a well tuned suspension over all. Not to mention as you had done, a corner balance is needed with coilovers and it isn't cheap.

The biggest key is I'd like to see my friend focus on a safer smoother performance ride from stock. Suspension tuning will take you leages above a more powerful car performance wise. Evidence of this can be seen with a little project from now gone SubiSport magazine called "Zero to Hero". Pitting a reworked 05' RS against a stock 05' STi around a track. The RS won. Heavy focus on suspension and not much to the power it's self.

[RCKSTR]

ugh, so much to take in, performance seems to be so much easier


this is true :lol:

[CTATV]

Suspensions regularly can be refered to as "passing the C Cup test" often with suspension reviews as most owners happen to be male and have either a female significant other if female friends. Comfort can be an issue for them.

And you cut out the key second part of the second highlighted sentence. :P Now you want bad roads that RT27 in winter is nothing to joke about and you were on well maintained roads in the areas you went while here. NH may not be as bad as MA, which in my opinion is worse that NY or NJ roads it's still bad.
And the quick fix isn't as solid at a well tuned suspension over all. Not to mention as you had done, a corner balance is needed with coilovers and it isn't cheap.

The biggest key is I'd like to see my friend focus on a safer smoother performance ride from stock. Suspension tuning will take you leages above a more powerful car performance wise. Evidence of this can be seen with a little project from now gone SubiSport magazine called "Zero to Hero". Pitting a reworked 05' RS against a stock 05' STi around a track. The RS won. Heavy focus on suspension and not much to the power it's self.

Suspensions regularly can be refered to as "passing the C Cup test" often with suspension reviews as most owners happen to be male and have either a female significant other if female friends. Comfort can be an issue for them.

Many girls ride in my car I have been without complaints. some of them have tig 'ole

And you cut out the key second part of the second highlighted sentence. :P Now you want bad roads that RT27 in winter is nothing to joke about and you were on well maintained roads in the areas you went while here. NH may not be as bad as MA, which in my opinion is worse that NY or NJ roads it's still bad.

Sorry dude but Jersey City/Newark & NYC have WAYYYY worse roads than almost anywhere man. Im pretty sure anybody else who has driven both will agree with me so lets not let worse roads turn into a my dick is bigger than yours competition, cause mine is bigger :)


And the quick fix isn't as solid at a well tuned suspension over all. Not to mention as you had done, a corner balance is needed with coilovers and it isn't cheap.

but he isn't building a race car its his daily driver. the coils are the best bang for the buck and then if he feels he needs the other parts of a well balanced suspension system he can fill in around the coilovers to finish a complete system. Spending money on little things that arent as noticeable FIRST is a really dumb way to build a daily driver

The biggest key is I'd like to see my friend focus on a safer smoother performance ride from stock. Suspension tuning will take you leages above a more powerful car performance wise. Evidence of this can be seen with a little project from now gone SubiSport magazine called "Zero to Hero". Pitting a reworked 05' RS against a stock 05' STi around a track. The RS won. Heavy focus on suspension and not much to the power it's self.

did you read the thread? I'm on the same page I said he should do suspension before power mods. I did my coilovers and LCA bushings before performance mods on my car

[GeoffC8]

Umm, don't coil-overs generally have stiffness knobs on them to adjust the firmness of the ride? If you have the $ to spend on coils, go for it. Just don't forget to get them corner balanced. And don't forget to upgrade your brakes. Power/speed isn't **** without being able to stop.

[CTATV]

Umm, don't coil-overs generally have stiffness knobs on them to adjust the firmness of the ride? If you have the $ to spend on coils, go for it. Just don't forget to get them corner balanced. And don't forget to upgrade your brakes. Power/speed isn't **** without being able to stop.

actually coilovers are fully adjustable for spring stiffness, dampening, camber, and ride height.

and agreed. A good start for brakes is some steel braided lines and Hawk HPS pads to get you started

[squeethebee]

I know you guys are on the topic of suspension, but pads are some of the BEST bang for the buck mods you can make brake wise.

ed

[wrxtuner82]

I know you guys are on the topic of suspension, but pads are some of the BEST bang for the buck mods you can make brake wise.

ed

Suggestions for pads?

As for the rest of the convo between Gaddis and Evan, wow, that was a lot to take it, and pretty comical to see the replies back and forth, but I do def appreciate both of your points of view. I think I'll try to get front & rear sways and coils all at the same time when I buy.

[98Wagoon]

hawk hps ftw.

[Seraphinwolf]

Not saying don't get coilovers only that the rest of the suspension is key too. Also to watch the spring rates on the coils. Not all coilovers are created equal. So make sure to read reviews and shop for the features you want. Not all coilovers have camber, caster, dampening adjustments. Most these days have at least te dampening but check to see what those rate changes are. If it's from all ready too stiff to stiffer... Find another calving rate. If it's 3 or 3billion settings it won't matter if none are what you want.
Sways, endlinks, bushings, subframe locks, and basic brake work of pads and lines will do wonders without adding aditional wear to other parts of your car's suspension. Ball joints and other little bits in your undercarriage can suffer early fatigue from coilovers in my experience.

[Seraphinwolf]

but he isn't building a race car its his daily driver. the coils are the best bang for the buck and then if he feels he needs the other parts of a well balanced suspension system he can fill in around the coilovers to finish a complete system. Spending money on little things that arent as noticeable FIRST is a really dumb way to build a daily driver

this is the only part I'm gonna pick at. Everything else so far between us has been opinions and we'll leave it at that. But sways and such are te quickest way to have a responsive car that will remain both effective and not sacrifice an ounce of comfort and at the same time not shift stress points to other points of the suspension.

[CTATV]

hawk hps ftw.

:whore:

[98Wagoon]

:whore:

a little bit, yeah.. :lol: :berge:

we installed them on my brothers 04 wrx wagon and even with the stock rotors there was a noticeable difference in stopping power with them.

[drdabbles]

Pads are like suspension pieces...everyone here has an opinion. I used EBC Red Stuff with success, but Hawk HPS work better over a larger temp range. Synaptic3 suggests Cobalt pads, but I found them to be unacceptably noisey. :lol:

With pads you have a few choices to make:
How much dust do you want
How much noise do you want
How often do you want to change them
How often do you want to replace rotors
Do you want to use them on a track EVER


Pads that stand up to really heavy use will be LOUD when they are cold. Depending on the compound, they will also make a LOT of dust. Pads that grip the instant you press the pedal, even when cold, are going to be more aggressive on your rotors. They will also probably not work as well under constant heavy braking.

Best bet is to decide what kind of driving you're going to do, and talk to a vendor that carries several lines from several manufacturers. They will have the best suggestion for you, as they CONSTANTLY see feedback from us using their wares. :up:

[Bu11dogg2]

Anyone who recommends coil overs for a daily driver car should be shot.

Coilovers should only be used on a car you plan to auto-x.

They need to be adjusted, corner balanced and rebuilt every 10k-30k.

A solid strut/spring combo is all you need and they will last 100K

[CTATV]

Anyone who recommends coil overs for a daily driver car should be shot.

Coilovers should only be used on a car you plan to auto-x.

They need to be adjusted, corner balanced and rebuilt every 10k-30k.

A solid strut/spring combo is all you need and they will last 100K

Shoot me Randy.... I have coils on mine Ive had them for 25k miles no problems I dont forsee rebuild soon but i guess time will tell

[CTATV]

a little bit, yeah.. :lol: :berge:

we installed them on my brothers 04 wrx wagon and even with the stock rotors there was a noticeable difference in stopping power with them.

lol the :whore: = +1 smiley on another site thats what I meant. I agreed :lol:

[wrxtuner82]

Anyone who recommends coil overs for a daily driver car should be shot.

Coilovers should only be used on a car you plan to auto-x.

They need to be adjusted, corner balanced and rebuilt every 10k-30k.

A solid strut/spring combo is all you need and they will last 100K

Really? I mean, everyone knows that this is going to be a DD for, but really what I want out of it is to make it a "show worthy" DD. You're the first one to tell me NOT to go coil overs and this is quite the dilemma now, since I look up to you like a God

I mean, I'd love to do SOME auto X, but like I said, this'll be a DD, that being said, I still plan to put a harness bar, 5pt harness and roll cage inside? How much do you hate me now. I bet you're reply to this will include one of the following

:unamused:

or

:snoop:

[Richie]

when it's all said and done, just be sure to post a video of said Ccup test being performed.

[CTATV]

when it's all said and done, just be sure to post a video of said Ccup test being performed.


:rofl::rofl:

+1

[Richie]

Really? I mean, everyone knows that this is going to be a DD for, but really what I want out of it is to make it a "show worthy" DD. You're the first one to tell me NOT to go coil overs and this is quite the dilemma now, since I look up to you like a God

I mean, I'd love to do SOME auto X, but like I said, this'll be a DD, that being said, I still plan to put a harness bar, 5pt harness and roll cage inside? How much do you hate me now. I bet you're reply to this will include one of the following

:unamused:

or

:snoop:

I'd never recommend coils for a DD either. What i think happens a lot on these car forums is 'status modding', where certain parts are bought and installed for no reason at all other than status. I think coils are the #1 offender of this issue. Poll how many people have coils, then poll how many people have coils and track their car on a regular basis, it's hilarious.
Also, it seems many people throw on cheap coils cause that's what the internet told them to do, find out they suck, but then are too ashamed to admit it. :lol:

Stick with struts and springs. Low maintenance, comfy ride, and you'll get more for your money. But again, this is all just my opinion. Good luck.

[Kojak77]

I agree with Rich 100%.

Once my OEM struts start to clunk, I'm going with KW V3 coil-overs.

I like status mods. :lol:

[Bu11dogg2]

I'd never recommend coils for a DD either. What i think happens a lot on these car forums is 'status modding', where certain parts are bought and installed for no reason at all other than status.


THIS!

I had a set of TEIN Coil overs and I think that my KYB AGX's with Prodrive springs feel, and handle way better.

NOT to mention they will last longer, are less expensive and MUCH easier to adjust dampening.

If I want to race, I set them to "1" and in teh winter tehy go to "4" and it give a much softer ride than even the stock spring/strut combo do.

Connor,


If you want to go stupid low (hella flush) or whatever it's called go with a set of adjustable coilovers.

If you want a good ride and adjustable dampening, but not stupid low, go with a spring strut combo.

[Bu11dogg2]

or you could just get a set of set of S-Techs and go stupid low for around $150.

[BrosWRX]

I dunno. I've been looking into the coil/spring/strut thing for a while and I've read a TON of good stuff about BC's. And maybe I'm wrong, but the price doesn't seem too much different between BC's and a good set of struts/springs?

I do understand that to get the very best out of the coils one should get them corner balanced, etc, which would add to the cost, but there again, would a DD truely need to be corner balanced assuming all measurements, rates, etc were the same between them?

[Bu11dogg2]

BC's do get great reviews :)

BC Coil overs are around $1000.00 shipped, assumming you can't self install, add another $500 + corner balancing + alignment = $1800

And don;t forget a rebuild! most people don't know that there Coil overs are bad and drive for thousands of miles with compromised handling.

KYB AGX adjustables = $550 + $150 for springs + Install + alignment = $1200.00

minus out the install:

BC's = $1100 with alignment
KYB's = $800 with alignment

take that extra $300 and get a stiffer rear sway and a short throw shifter. ;)

[DHGurs]

BC's do get great reviews :)

BC Coil overs are around $1000.00 shipped, assumming you can't self install, add another $500 + corner balancing + alignment = $1800

And don;t forget a rebuild! most people don't know that there Coil overs are bad and drive for thousands of miles with compromised handling.

KYB AGX adjustables = $550 + $150 for springs + Install + alignment = $1200.00

minus out the install:

BC's = $1100 with alignment
KYB's = $800 with alignment

take that extra $300 and get a stiffer rear sway and a short throw shifter. ;)

If only KYB made something like this for the GE/GH, that would be much easier. Realistically, the only Strut/Spring combo is the GTO WRX combo, which is $1100. The 08-10 struts are pretty horrible from the factory, so unless you pick the right springs, you will have a pretty rough ride.

For what you are looking to do, I would get some springs and sways, if you are still looking for more, then possibly look at the coilover or strut/spring combo after the fact.

I also don't agree with coils as a first suspension mod, although that is the VW way of thinking :lol:. I find that akin to swapping a turbo before doing any other motor work.

Go for a ride in Christine's car, (if she'll let you :lol: ), I think she has springs and sways. If that is adequate, there is your answer!

[wrxtuner82]

:spin:omg...........my head is so full right now :eek:

[Seraphinwolf]

Coilovers are DDable now. Quality is up and options for a street car. But i'll still stick to a fair warning on coilovers.

[BrosWRX]

Well installing the springs/struts, or coils is pretty easy. It's the allignment and other things that unless you have the tools and know-how is the killer I would think. Sorry to semi-steal your thread by the way, it's just I've been pondering on my next mod as well.

[wrxtuner82]

Well installing the springs/struts, or coils is pretty easy. It's the allignment and other things that unless you have the tools and know-how is the killer I would think. Sorry to semi-steal your thread by the way, it's just I've been pondering on my next mod as well.

Not a problem, seriously, it's all great information to be getting.

Not to switch gears on everyone though, but just for a moment,

I don't have the money to buy rims right now :( but it occured to me the other day my tire tread is getting pretty low and I'll probably need new tires soon. Suggestions for a really great ultra high performance summer or all weather? I say summer cause after this summer, I'll be gone so I don't need a winter tire.

[BrosWRX]

I'm running the Hancook V12.. They are pretty good and not too expensive.

[Seraphinwolf]

I would suggest some time on TireRack with pricing out and reading reviews. I really like Dunlops. You could always also look in the member's FS threads for tires.

[98Wagoon]

I used discounttiredirect.com for my nitto NT450's. great tires. Im on my second summer and still love them. they were also really affordable, and DTD offers frreeeee shipping, and you can purchase with the tires a lifetime replacement program voucher for them so if ANYTHING happens while driving ie potholes, curbed, slashed. anything. they'll send you a brand new replacement tire for free. I know a lot of people swear by tirerack. but I had better success with DTD than I have with TR in the past.

[wrxtuner82]

^Hmmm, I'll check em out, thanks

[Bu11dogg2]

Troll the forums for a slightly used set and save yourself some coin.

[wrxtuner82]

So last night I was driving home down a pretty windy road and rather than listen to music for once, I concentrated on just feeling the suspension through corners. And after this ride, much to Randy's disagreement, I'm going to go with coil overs. I just can't stand the rocking back and forth and how the corners feel.

[Aperture]

Do you already have sways?

[98Wagoon]

^^no, he doesnt.


I say upgrade the swaybars and endlinks first. trust me. thats a major player in getting rid of the body roll. perhaps a front strut tower bar, also. THEN run it on a windy road and decide..

[wrxtuner82]

Yes, I plan to, in that order

[98Wagoon]

just making sure, dear :wub: haha

[Seraphinwolf]

I would suggest holding off on the strut bars just yet. Read up and see how much responce in chassis rigidity they will provide. I have a feeling the GH chassis may not see much gains from them +1 on the sway and endlinks first though. Ask Gary to go for a ride in his STi. You'll notice a big difference between how his holds a corner vs you WRX still stock.

[wrxtuner82]

all the body roll is extremely annoying

[RCKSTR]

coilovers will change this :up: you and set the ride height and how soft or hard you want them set! I love mine and don't care what everyone else is telling you. I don't regret buying my BC's one bit!!!

[98Wagoon]

take the wagoon for a ride. you want bodyroll?

[wrxtuner82]

Welllllllllllllll, one person (won't say who) told me I shouldn't get coil overs unless I'm going to do auto cross......of course.....someone else told me I shouldn't get a 4/5/6 point harness unless I'm going to do auto cross

[Seraphinwolf]

Hello! :P

[RCKSTR]

Welllllllllllllll, one person (won't say who) told me I shouldn't get coil overs unless I'm going to do auto cross......of course.....someone else told me I shouldn't get a 4/5/6 point harness unless I'm going to do auto cross


its your car man, do what you like :)

you know what they say about opinions, they're like *******s and everyones got one.

[Joe]

09 struts, epic springs. Done. I have zero roll. I don't have sways, cause i don't have money. :lol: just a spring strut combo will tighten it up. 08's had a very squishy setup. I will take you for a little ride tomorrow in my car. then you can get the feel for it. and save some money. I love coilovers, but the price is a lot to drop.

[wrxtuner82]

couldn't agree more when it appears that a good set of coils is gonna run a minimum $1000. I'd love to take a ride in yours and get a feel for it

[Seraphinwolf]

couldn't agree more when it appears that a good set of coils is gonna run a minimum $1500. I'd love to take a ride in yours and get a feel for it

Fixed it. A basic coilover will run a grand. A MINIMALLY good one will be like $1.5k+Cornerbalance, alignments, and if you don't have means to do yourself install.

[wrxtuner82]

Fortunately, I do have means for dyi install and alignments and bla bla bla...and hate me all you want Randy, but IF I go coils, I'll be going with Tein coils, so yeah, $2295....again, thats an if. I'd love to find a couple people that have rex's like me (like Joe), one with coils and then one with strut spring combo, so I could feel the difference

[Seraphinwolf]

Well the key is what the coilovers are set to. AKA what the dampening, rebound, and travel of the pistons and the coil rates. Thn there are the camber/caster vs. Fixed top hats.
Tien makes a wonderful product. Just match the right purchace for your needs/wants. I don't like BC's cause I've seen some have critical failure and also cause I knowntheu are manufactured in the same facility with many of the same parts as Megan's and I ABSOLUTELY couldn't stand them anyore by the time I got rid of them! Would have been fine as a track only coilover but even the softest settings were atrocious. :vomit:

[DHGurs]

Hey, don't waste money, get F/R sways and endlinks, that should be under $500 and is necessary anyway, so do that and see how you like it.

I wouldn't spend money on 09 take off struts, Koni inserts are only $580 and with a set of nice springs will be better ride quality and stiffer. With you not looking to slam your ride (brah) or Auto-X, I think that would be the best DD option.

If you want a nice upgrade for cheap, buy a SE STi RSB from a dealership for around $90, and see the difference just that makes. You'll go from a 15mm RSB to a 19mm, and it will put a huge smile on your face. We just put one on my buddy's 2010 Legacy, and the difference is night and day.

[wrxtuner82]

What does this do

http://www.importimageracing.com/p/Forge-Unos-Manual-boost-controller-black.html

compared to this

http://www.importimageracing.com/p/Greddy-Profec-B-Spec-II-Boost-Controller.html ???

[98Wagoon]

depends on the tuner. Bren prefers manual like the forge unos. some prefer the solenoids. Id PM him. cuz all I know is.. well.. ones manual, ones electric.... although theres a sticky somewhere on here that explains both from the one known as Randy.

[CTATV]

Well the key is what the coilovers are set to. AKA what the dampening, rebound, and travel of the pistons and the coil rates. Thn there are the camber/caster vs. Fixed top hats.
Tien makes a wonderful product. Just match the right purchace for your needs/wants. I don't like BC's cause I've seen some have critical failure and also cause I knowntheu are manufactured in the same facility with many of the same parts as Megan's and I ABSOLUTELY couldn't stand them anyore by the time I got rid of them! Would have been fine as a track only coilover but even the softest settings were atrocious. :vomit:

who's have you seen have this critical failure. ive got over 30,000 hard driving and ****ty road miles on mine without any failures big or small

[wrxtuner82]

I just told one of our tuning sponsors to expect a PM from me next Tues or Weds because I'll be buying my Crawford catless DP

[wrxtuner82]

MIUT_qS6KH0

[Seraphinwolf]

You swinging by one of these mornings?

[wrxtuner82]

Okay, so I haven’t posted in my own thread in a while so I figured I’d make a list of parts I plan to buy while I’m deployed. So love it or hate it, this is a list of things I will be buying over the next year.

Also, I know a few of the people on here store their cars over winter. I’ll be storing mine for a year, possibly more, so some info/suggestions would be great. These are my current plans for storage, and keep in mind the car will be stored in an old barn that is frequented by rodents and birds:
Take off all four wheels
Disconnect the battery
Put a cover of some sort over the exhaust tip to keep the rats & birds out
Maybe take the CAI off and cover the hole?
Should I drain all the fluids maybe?

Okay, my parts to buy list:

Brakes:
DBA 4000 series rear rotors drilled
DBA 4000 series front rotor slotted
Agency Power front & rear brake lines
Project MU B-Force front brake pads

Engine:
Mishimoto radiator
HKS twin power ignition amplifier
Torque Solutions pitch stop engine mounts
Grimmspeed air/oil separator
Perrin oil catch can
Perrin lightweight crank pulley
Perrin top feed fuel rail kit

Exhaust:
Invidia catless down pipe
GT Spec unequal length headers

Transmission:
Torque Solutions Driveshaft center support bushings
Whiteline Gearbox positive shifter bushings
Whiteline Rear subframe traction kit
Techna-fit stainless steel clutch line
Agency Power short shifter
Exedy single plate clutch
Exedy lightweight flywheel

Suspension:
Agency Power rear adjustable control arms
Agency Power rear adjustable toe arms
Whiteline rear lower shock bushings
Whiteline front inner control arm bushings
Perrin SLS subframe lockdown system
Perrin PSRS anti-lift kit
Eibach lowering springs
Whiteline front strut bar
Agency Power front & rear 22mm sway bars
Volk TE37 18” wheels
BFGoodrich T/A KDW 2 tires

Exterior:
Duraflex FRP GT concept fenders
Duraflex FRP GT concept front bumper
6SR Type 1 poly front lip
Duraflex FRP GT concept rear bumper
6SR Type 1 poly rear lip
Duraflex FRP GT concept side skirts
Carbon Creations CF GT concept hood
Carbon Creations CF GT concept spoiler (still debating)

Boost:
HKS R-Type FMIC
Harman Motive GT-series turbo upgrade (still deciding if I’ll go with rotated turbo instead)

Interior & electronics:
Sparco Milano prestige seats
NRG flat bottom steering wheel
Takata 4 point harnesses
2008 Harness bar
Apex’I super grounding system
MSD Dashhawk
NRG Voltage stabilizer
TurboXS UTEC engine management
Apex’I digital boost controller


Okay, I think I got just about everything. Now I’m completely open to your criticism/suggestions. Let me know if I listed anything that’s doubled up. I had to do this list twice because the first time I did it, NES logged me out so when I hit submit, I lost EVERYTHING I’d typed.

[lucipha]

SS lines for the brakes are a must.

[DHGurs]

You forgot steering rack bushings. Also you should get headers to take full advantage of a big turbo, and possibly EWG.

Also, that tiny little airbag-less steering wheel may not be the best, as I know this will still be your DD. I would get the DAMD wheel, it retains the airbag, and cruise/stereo controls.

Also stock is 375mm, DAMD is 358mm, and the one you are looking at is 320mm.

The DAMD one is seeexy too.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2461/3627967500_9aa53343e2_o.jpg

[wrxtuner82]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, that is sexy

Updated the list, can't believe I forgot the exhaust parts, I actually put it on the first list, but like I said, it got erased cause I got logged out. So exhaust parts are on there now.

[Bu11dogg2]

Okay, my parts to buy list:

Brakes:
DBA 4000 series rear rotors drilled
DBA 4000 series front rotor slotted
Agency Power front & rear brake lines
Project MU B-Force front/REAR brake pads
UPGRADED FLUID

Engine:
Mishimoto radiator
HKS twin power ignition amplifier waste of money
Torque Solutions pitch stop engine mounts
Grimmspeed air/oil separator
Perrin oil catch can
Perrin lightweight crank pulley
Perrin top feed fuel rail kit
Upgraded hosing SAMCO
Forged internals, at least pistons

Exhaust:
Invidia catless down pipe
GT Spec unequal length headers
Upgraded Hangers

Transmission:
Torque Solutions Driveshaft center support bushings
Whiteline Gearbox positive shifter bushings
Whiteline Rear subframe traction kit
Techna-fit stainless steel clutch line
Agency Power short shifter
Exedy single plate clutch
Exedy lightweight flywheel
REAR DIFF BUSHINGS

Suspension:
Agency Power rear adjustable control arms waste of money unless your gonna track it
Agency Power rear adjustable toe arms waste of money unless your gonna track it
Whiteline rear lower shock bushings
Whiteline front inner control arm bushings
Perrin SLS subframe lockdown system
Perrin PSRS anti-lift kit
Eibach lowering springs
Whiteline front strut bar
Agency Power front & rear 22mm sway bars All those suspension mods and you're gonna go 22mm? go 25mm!!
Volk TE37 18” wheels
BFGoodrich T/A KDW 2 tires

Exterior:
Duraflex FRP GT concept fenders Please don't
Duraflex FRP GT concept front bumper Please don't
6SR Type 1 poly front lip
Duraflex FRP GT concept rear bumper Please don't
6SR Type 1 poly rear lip
Duraflex FRP GT concept side skirts Please don't
Carbon Creations CF GT concept hood PLEASE DO NOT
Carbon Creations CF GT concept spoiler (still debating) PLEASE DO NOT

Boost:
HKS R-Type FMIC
Harman Motive GT-series turbo upgrade (still deciding if I’ll go with rotated turbo instead)
Better BPV
Ugraded EBCS
Upgraded vacuum hosing


Interior & electronics:
Sparco Milano prestige seats
NRG flat bottom steering wheel PLEASE DO NOT
Takata 4 point harnesses
2008 Harness bar
Apex’I super grounding system
MSD Dashhawk
NRG Voltage stabilizer
TurboXS UTEC engine management Consult with your tuner, but this sounds like overkill
Apex’I digital boost controller PLEASE DO NOT
Gauges Boost/Oil temp/oil press/ect/ect


Okay, I think I got just about everything. Now I’m completely open to your criticism/suggestions. Let me know if I listed anything that’s doubled up. I had to do this list twice because the first time I did it, NES logged me out so when I hit submit, I lost EVERYTHING I’d typed.


if you plan on making more than 380 i'd consider a transmission too.

If you make the kind of money I did over there.... it shodul be no problem to swap in a 6 speed.

[DHGurs]

What Randy said... (I have the diff bushings too, well worth it)

Also, those tires are pretty old at this point. The were OEM on the SRT4 in 02/03 :lol:
You would spend less on Dunlop Direzza Star Specs, and have better tires.

[Bu11dogg2]

Or Kumho's

[jmb1983]

if you plan on making more than 380 i'd consider a transmission too.

If you make the kind of money I did over there.... it shodul be no problem to swap in a 6 speed.

this

[wrxtuner82]

Randy, I take it you don't like my body kit option?

[Seraphinwolf]

I see no injectors...
Grounding kit for the electrical system is a must also.
Connor you have some texts for when you wake up.

[Bu11dogg2]

not at all.

I've never seen a subaru body kit I like.

Upgrade to STi sidskirts, get fogs if you dont have them, get a lip and mud flaps.

[wrxtuner82]

I don't know, I really don't like the factory body, especially with all the upgrades, I feel like I have to do SOMETHING. As for your comment "these are useless unless you plan to track it" I would like to try some of the autocross stuff at Loudon at some point

[DHGurs]

I just noticed... Stock struts? That should be the first to go. If you are going this crazy, get some nice coils, or at least the GTOWRX Bilsteins/Koni Yellow inserts.

The adjustable control arms are nice, if you need to run crazy camber, which is unlikely with proper fitting wheels. Whiteline's RCA bushings should at least get an additional 1% of camber, which would put the stock max to about 2.5%-2.8%

TBH the Strut bar is pretty useless too. The strut towers are so close to the firewall, there is not much extra stiffness to be gained from a strut mount. TiC said they could feel no difference after adding it or removing it. The GT Spec under car bracing would serve you much better.

[Bu11dogg2]

+1 on the strut bar

The WRX frame is so rigid that the strut really does nothing

[Seraphinwolf]

The new chassis is what you mean Randy.

[wrxtuner82]

Randy, What about these?
http://www.subimods.com/gsc-jdm-euro-spec-sti-cams.html?sitenameid=940d2a4002b9cb10a1bd9520f8110 489

And where can I find forged pistons for my car?

[Bu11dogg2]

I'd go with a kit (pistons/rods/bearings/cams/valves) OR buy a built 2.5 short block.

I think all of our part vendors sell them.

[wrxtuner82]

Won't a 2.5 short block cost about 10g?

[Psychoreo]

$1600-$2000 brand spankin' new

[Seraphinwolf]

$1600-$2000 brand spankin' new

He's talking built shortblocks.

[wrxtuner82]

even still, last night I looked at a Crawford 2.5 short block for 4g, and their 2.7 short block is just over 10. I would love to think I could afford their 2.7 billet stroker long block, but 16g would take up 80% of my budget i think

[Joe]

I like the kit, I plan on the chargespeed one at some point. Also, could you buy me some things with your fancy govt money???? Please!!
:lol:

[Bu11dogg2]

you could get this for $11,700

http://www.importimageracing.com/p/Cosworth-Hi-Perfrmnce-Long-Block-Ass1-04STi-02WRX.html


or get a smokin deal (you can't build it yourself for this much) $2700

http://www.importimageracing.com/p/RAW-Performance-Street-Series-Short-Block-WRX-STi.html

one more similar

http://www.importimageracing.com/p/TopSpeed-ss1-Short-Block-02-10-WRX-STi-LGT.html


I plan in upgrading to the RAW Performance short block next year ;)

[Bu11dogg2]

this is what I really want :wub:

http://www.importimageracing.com/p/RAW-Performance-Track-Series-Short-Block-WRX-STi.html


2.5 Liter STi semi-closed deck case
Modified forged EJ257 crankshaft
High Performance Main & Rod Bearings
Pauter 4340 Chrome-Moly Forged Rods
CP Forged Pistons w/ Moly Coated Skirts
High Performance Piston Rings
Fully Balanced & Blueprinted
8,500 Rev Limit Recommended

[jwebsta32]

you could get this for $11,700

http://www.importimageracing.com/p/Cosworth-Hi-Perfrmnce-Long-Block-Ass1-04STi-02WRX.html


or get a smokin deal (you can't build it yourself for this much) $2700

http://www.importimageracing.com/p/RAW-Performance-Street-Series-Short-Block-WRX-STi.html

one more similar

http://www.importimageracing.com/p/TopSpeed-ss1-Short-Block-02-10-WRX-STi-LGT.html


I plan in upgrading to the RAW Performance short block next year ;)


uh oh 2.5 litre with 2.0 heads

[Bu11dogg2]

my heads are built anyway.... might as well go hybrid!


Back OT:


If I was you Connor, i'd drop your car off at a shop and leave it there while you're deployed.

Have parts shipped and installed while you're there so when you get home you just have to drive off

[jwebsta32]

my heads are built anyway.... might as well go hybrid!

NON AVCS HEADS....fail

[Seraphinwolf]

NON AVCS HEADS....fail

He's got a point Randy... /OT

I agree with the shop idea. Find one you likenand trust to do the work. How about the one in Brentwood? Depending on their rates of course.

[wrxtuner82]

Thing is I have a hard on about doing everything I can myself, otherwise I'd think that's a decent idea, when I come home on leave I plan to do a 24 hour build at my friends shop, me, him, my brother, a couple guys from NES that I'm sure will stop by and help out

[wrxtuner82]

I like the kit, I plan on the chargespeed one at some point. Also, could you buy me some things with your fancy govt money???? Please!!
:lol:

I looked at the chargespeed kit but it only shows it for the STi?

[Seraphinwolf]

Only real difference is the rear fenders and rear bumper cover between the mounting points. I say if you like the Chargespeed go for it.

[Bu11dogg2]

Thing is I have a hard on about doing everything I can myself, otherwise I'd think that's a decent idea, when I come home on leave I plan to do a 24 hour build at my friends shop, me, him, my brother, a couple guys from NES that I'm sure will stop by and help out


Just remember you gotta get tuned for injectors and break the motor in ;)

I could break the motor in for ya before you even get home :)

[Joe]

I looked at the chargespeed kit but it only shows it for the STi?

http://www.chargespeed.com/english/impreza-gh8-e1.htm

This is the one i will be getting, Someday....
http://www.chargespeed.com/english/gh8-b-1-e1.htm



Only real difference is the rear fenders and rear bumper cover between the mounting points. I say if you like the Chargespeed go for it.

Yea real diff, oh and the widebody work you would need. new rear doors, metal work to the rear quater, etc. Sti stuff isn't even close in the rear. Trust me i looked into it.

[wrxtuner82]

Just remember you gotta get tuned for injectors and break the motor in ;)

I could break the motor in for ya before you even get home :)

Since now I'm looking at a block too, and the IMMENSE amount of work that will be done in hopefully a day or a little more, I was thinking once everything is in I'll put it on a trailer to get it to Bren. There's no way I wanna drive it without a tune after all that work.


And I'm sure you can break it in, I'll keep that in mind

[wrxtuner82]

Any idea price on that one you "someday want" Joe?

[Bu11dogg2]

Won't be able to drive without tuning for the injectors anyway ;)

[Joe]

Any idea price on that one you "someday want" Joe?


****, chargespeed probably 4-5 grand. unpainted

[wrxtuner82]

Ouch, that doesn't sound super fun, I'm lookin to stay in the 25k area and with everything I just posted plus now looking at a whole short block, I'm gettin pretty close to that as it is

[Joe]

Ouch, that doesn't sound super fun, I'm lookin to stay in the 25k area and with everything I just posted plus now looking at a whole short block, I'm gettin pretty close to that as it is


You could just go stg 3 on the stock block, then you would have plenty of cash for the chargespeed kit :D

[Seraphinwolf]

What about buying a crashed STi?

[wrxtuner82]

If you look at mine and Randy's parts lists on page 8, can anyone gauge what they think I'll produce for hp? I'm shooting for 400whp minimum, it'd be nice to hit 450, but I think at that point I'm looking at full set up by ballistic or synaptic3 or something.

[Seraphinwolf]

"Don" you are still missing which turbo. Also have you locked in on heads and a block yet? Don't forget you need a fuel pump and injectors!

[wrxtuner82]

goddamit, I told everyone to continue calling me by the name connor

I'm pretty sure I've decided to go with a Garret turbo

Instead of a whole block, I'm probably just going to go forged internals in an effort to save money

[Seraphinwolf]

Good cause the Don vs Dan thing used to drive me nuts and I've gotten used to Connor.

No not which brand. Which size? 30R or better especially twinscroll should be fine to hit 400 but that 35R will def hit the numbers on a built motor. Brian is running a 35R on his STi.

[wrxtuner82]

Brian's car is retarded :snoop:

I can't really afford to do a full built motor....at best i might be able to buy an STi motor, but at that point I may as well trade my rex....WHICH DAVID I AM NOT GOING TO DO BEFORE YOU SAY I SHOULD FOR THE MILLIONENTH ****ING TIME

My rex is staying, and my rex will see 400+hp....I just need some help getting there. I have no idea what you say when you say 30r twinscroll blah blah blah

[Seraphinwolf]

I only suggested buying the STi a few times. By all means stick with this car. Make it your own not anyone else's.

A 30R is a size and model of the turbo. A 30R is what 2.5RSTi is using if I remember.

I thought you had $30k to work with?

[wrxtuner82]

having no job, I need to come home with at least a little cash to survive on, at least until the next deployment next November....yes, I'm doing another deployment immediately following this one.....so right now I'm looking at like $15k-$18k-ish budget

[wrxtuner82]

And I'm going to go with coil overs....Tein I think....Maybe ISC

[98Wagoon]

having no job, I need to come home with at least a little cash to survive on, at least until the next deployment next November....yes, I'm doing another deployment immediately following this one.....so right now I'm looking at like $15k-$18k-ish budget



:(

:unamused:

:unmaused:

[wrxtuner82]

I love it that you still remember the :unmaused: :up:

[98Wagoon]

:unmaused: will always be ours. :wub:

[Seraphinwolf]

And I'm going to go with coil overs....Tein I think....Maybe ISC

I would wait for a long term review and see how the ISC's hold up long term... That was one of my biggest beefs with the Megan's and BC's was they don't handle NE roads well. The Tiens can go either way depending on which series. Their cheap ones are exactly that and their good ones are SWEEEET. H&R have some very nice ones that hold up well.
If you want I can try to look up stuff for you. Motor wise that is. How much of the budget do you want to put at just the power parts?
I forget you were planning on pulling the car off the road for winters now right?

[wrxtuner82]

will an HKS manifold increase HP?

[Seraphinwolf]

It doesn't "make power" but allows you to tune to a smoother increase across your curve. Mostly a waist of money right now. Put that money into injectors, furl pump, rails, turbo, and exhaust.

[wrxtuner82]

Waste of money right now? What about future? How far down the road should I wait?

[Seraphinwolf]

A long ways down the road IMO. there are more important parts to focus on than that.

[Seraphinwolf]

If I remember Brian has 400+wheel with his OEM manifold rotated and all that other jazz he's got under the hood.

[wrxtuner82]

I've started looking at rims and tires, what do you guys think of these, ENKEI Imola with bridgestone RE11's, 18x8, the bridgestones I'm looking at are 225/40, is that alright?

[Joe]

I've started looking at rims and tires, what do you guys think of these, ENKEI Imola with bridgestone RE11's, 18x8, the bridgestones I'm looking at are 225/40, is that alright?

Go to a 235 or 245 series tire. That'll give you plenty of meat. And wont be hard to fit under your car.

[wrxtuner82]

http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheelrack/wheel_images/Enkei_Performance/Imola.Q.18.L.gif

[Seraphinwolf]

What are those and how much do they weigh?

[98Wagoon]

weigh.








:palm:

[Seraphinwolf]

Oh shut up...

[Joe]

Weight will NOT matter with this car.

[98Wagoon]

Weight will NOT matter with nearly any car.


quoted for truth. and a small fix.. :hide:

[Seraphinwolf]

Weight matters on every car. :p

[98Wagoon]

no.

[Joe]

Weight matters on every car. :p

Nope. Take this from someone who ran super light wheels and super heavy on the same car. Negliable. He isnt going pro auto-x. Buy wheels you like visually. That's all that matters.

[Berge56]

Nope. Take this from someone who ran super light wheels and super heavy on the same car. Negliable. He isnt going pro auto-x. Buy wheels you like visually. That's all that matters.


+1000

[jwebsta32]

If hes worried about weight he should not be doing car audio and adding amps. He is also planning on going FMIC....weight a minute that adds wait doesnt it?

[98Wagoon]

^^that... :hide:

[Seraphinwolf]

Front mount also cools air better and results in numbers.
Most effective means of improving performance is reducing weight where you can. There is nothing you can say to disproove physics. It's like... Laws and stuff!

[jwebsta32]

what about the audio weight?

[Seraphinwolf]

If I were him I'd gut the radio stuff minus a headunit that worked with my iPhone and some nice speakers up front. He'd never go for that though.

[98Wagoon]

The point, it still eludes you. physics or not you have ignored time and time again people who have actually run both light and heavy wheels and have felt no difference. Furthermore, Susan I know connor doesn't give a raging fart about how much the wheels weigh and its nigh noticeable effect on his car.

[Joe]

The point, it still eludes you. physics or not you have ignored time and time again people who have actually run both light and heavy wheels and have felt no difference. Furthermore, Susan I know connor doesn't give a raging fart about how much the wheels weigh and its nigh noticeable effect on his car.


Someone here gets the point. its a ****ING WHEEL. you will be fine. I promise you. I'm running 16x8s with 37 inch tires. guess what, those ****ers are heavy. its fine.

nevertheless, conner will get what he gets.

[98Wagoon]

:wub:

[98Wagoon]

reminds me of the 33x12.5x15's I had on my cherokee.. good luck lifting those bastards... when tires get measured in inches, then **** gets reeaalllll heavy rreeeeaaalll fast.. :lol:

[Joe]

reminds me of the 33x12.5x15's I had on my cherokee.. good luck lifting those bastards... when tires get measured in inches, then **** gets reeaalllll heavy rreeeeaaalll fast.. :lol:


Dear God, i hear ya! I drop a nut every time.

[wrxtuner82]

:rofl:

You guys kill me, that was some funny **** to read just now. Gaddis, as for your question, they 22lbs, I tried to stay light, most 18's were between 20 and 24lbs and to what joe and alex say, these are the ones that are visually appealing to me, I've spent a year looking at rim after rim and these ones i finally like.

As for stereo, I'm staying light in that department too, touch head unit, 4 way amp for separates in each door and possibly a 10 inch sub which requires a 2 way amp, but the sub is still undecided.

As far as speed, handling and braking go, it'd be cool to hit NHMS once in a while for their time trial stuff, but outside that what I really want to know I can beat other people on the street/highway, a street legal, daily driver race car. so losing or gaining anything less than 10 pounds, I'm not super concerned about

[98Wagoon]

:rofl:

You guys kill me, that was some funny **** to read just now. Gaddis, as for your question, they 22lbs, I tried to stay light, most 18's were between 20 and 24lbs and to what joe and alex say, these are the ones that are visually appealing to me, I've spent a year looking at rim after rim and these ones i finally like.

As for stereo, I'm staying light in that department too, touch head unit, 4 way amp for separates in each door and possibly a 10 inch sub which requires a 2 way amp, but the sub is still undecided.

As far as speed, handling and braking go, it'd be cool to hit NHMS once in a while for their time trial stuff, but outside that what I really want to know I can beat other people on the track/drags a street legal, daily driver race car. so losing or gaining anything less than 10 pounds, I'm not super concerned about



fixed before you get a peepee slap.

[Seraphinwolf]

4 channel amp+power speakers= <3
I'm gonna do that for all my sound needs. I just got too tired if having a sub/subs taking up space or sliding around. It was fun to threaten friends with turning rap music on to shut them up though! :lol: Hatch kinda turns te whole cabin into a sound box. Back seats got the worst of it when turn on just 2 or a 6 level settings.

[Seraphinwolf]

And Connor 22's not bad for the size.

[DHGurs]

Why get a 2 channel amp for one sub? Get a mono-block for the best sound and least space used.

[Seraphinwolf]

He's talking about the sub to power the speakers not the dub if i'm not mistaken.

[DHGurs]

:rofl:


As for stereo, I'm staying light in that department too, touch head unit, 4 way amp for separates in each door and possibly a 10 inch sub which requires a 2 way amp, but the sub is still undecided.



:iam:

[Seraphinwolf]

Yeah missed that. Maybe he has one sitting around already from his Monty?

[Seraphinwolf]

Bump! Connor have your ordered anything yet? Anything show up at your dad's house that could be prepped for before you get back? How often is Dan home if you wanted maybe any of us to get a few things laid out and ready for your return date?

[wrxtuner82]

Finally got my computer today, very exciting, first time I've been able to get on NES in months with a real computer that moves quick, so I'll get some updates later tonight, I'm trying to move all my files and **** off my old computer right now, but I'll get any threads, especially this one and my deployment thread updated in the next few hours

[BogeyBones]

Updates!

:munch:

[wrxtuner82]

yeah yeah yeah, i'm workin on it

:lol:

[Subyspeed]

work faster

[wrxtuner82]

I've missed you guys :wub:

[wrxtuner82]

Alright, just put together two seperate carts between two different websites, www.importimageracing.com (http://www.importimageracing.com) and www.upscaleautomotive.com (http://www.upscaleautomotive.com). Had to use upscale because some things weren't listed on importimage. So here we go, things I've put on my carts so far:

Exhaust/intake/induction:
Invidia catless divorced downpipe
Greddy unequal length headers
AMR FMIC
AEM cold air intake (not of fan of the Perrin on it right now)

Brakes:
DBA 4000 front/rear slotted rotors
Hawk HP plus front/rear brake pads

Suspension:
Perrin subframe lockdown system
Perrin front/rear endlinks
Eibach lowering springs
Eibach front/rear sway bars
Whiteline front adjustable strut bar

Other:
Kartboy short shifter
ACT clutch/ACT streetlite flywheel

Most of this stuff I'm buying before I come home on leave. But I think I'll buy the FMIC after leave since I can't put on for WBM. Also after leave I plan to buy the ATP GT3071R bolt on turbo and depending if I get this job I'm applying for I'll buy the Greddy electronic boost controller. FMIC is a definite. The rest is likely.

:squee:

[jwebsta32]

ib4gaddiss say something about DBA5000 FRONTS

[wrxtuner82]

ib4gaddiss say something about DBA5000 FRONTS

ib4gaddiss says something about lowering springs instead of coil overs

[DHGurs]

Did you already place this order??? I'd stay away from Perrin Endlinks if it will be a DD. Strut bar isn't really going to make a huge difference on an 08+, the Whiteline under car brace would do a lot more for the money. I don't see steering rack bushings on that list either?

[Berge56]

ib4gaddiss

[Joe]

epic lowering springs are way better!!!!! and Call Josh. even if it isn't on the site he can find it for you and get you a damn good price.


hi conner. :hide:

[wrxtuner82]

Did you already place this order??? I'd stay away from Perrin Endlinks if it will be a DD. Strut bar isn't really going to make a huge difference on an 08+, the Whiteline under car brace would do a lot more for the money. I don't see steering rack bushings on that list either?

Bushings are something that I'll buy, no worries, I learned from you, the master, just how important all these small, inexpensive pieces are. No strut bar?

epic lowering springs are way better!!!!! and Call Josh. even if it isn't on the site he can find it for you and get you a damn good price.


hi conner. :hide:

Hi Joe :wub:

And I'm messenging back and forth with him about my list and I'm going entirely IIR. I NEVER really push a discount or anything for military but upscale happened to have one. I looked at it and it was 2%. I thought, 2%, I'd rather just find alternate parts on IIR because at least they sponsor my favorite website.

[Joe]

Hi Joe :wub:

And I'm messenging back and forth with him about my list and I'm going entirely IIR. I NEVER really push a discount or anything for military but upscale happened to have one. I looked at it and it was 2%. I thought, 2%, I'd rather just find alternate parts on IIR because at least they sponsor my favorite website.


Sweet! and 2% aint nuthin. you will be more then satisfied with what josh gets you. :up:

[DHGurs]

Bushings are something that I'll buy, no worries, I learned from you, the master, just how important all these small, inexpensive pieces are. No strut bar?



GH/GR Strut towers are very close to the firewall and RCE and many others have said that it's not a noticeable upgrade.

[wrxtuner82]

Sweet! and 2% aint nuthin. you will be more then satisfied with what josh gets you. :up:

You ain't kidding, he just saved me A TON of money on my order, and is letting me not order everything at once, it's all spread out between here and May1st or 15th, he did suggest I get the FMS fmic instead, so I'm doing that

[wrxtuner82]

Josh suggested goin with a Fast Motorsports FMIC instead of AMR to save some more money so that's what I did. I also changed out the strut bar for Whiteline undercar brace as suggested by Gary

[Berge56]

excellant! Glad you are saving $$$ on the FMIC.

[wrxtuner82]

excellant! Glad you are saving $$$ on the FMIC.

Big money saving on everything, especially since I changed out the FMIC. So lots of purchases coming soon :) :squee:

[DHGurs]

I would love that 4 point Whiteline brace, but it bumps up my auto-x class to fully prepared... :unamused:

[02wrxman]

congrats on saving money on the front mount and love the car

[hiprsha666]

Did you already place this order??? I'd stay away from Perrin Endlinks if it will be a DD. Strut bar isn't really going to make a huge difference on an 08+, the Whiteline under car brace would do a lot more for the money. I don't see steering rack bushings on that list either?

What is the deal with the Perrin endlinks? They just uncomfortable for a DD?



In other news...

To each his own of course, but I am glad you didn't spend $2000+ on an fmic. :spin:

[fbodydude53]

Deffinatally great to save money every time!!

[DHGurs]

What is the deal with the Perrin endlinks? They just uncomfortable for a DD?



In other news...

To each his own of course, but I am glad you didn't spend $2000+ on an fmic. :spin:

Exposed metal on metal bushings. More NVH and need to be greased occasionally. You'd probably want to take them off in the winter to because of the design.

Kart Boy or AVO have good ones you don't need to worry about. (I personally recommend KB, not to mention the owner Tom is cool ****)

[wrxtuner82]

I am glad you didn't spend $2000+ on an fmic. :spin:

Yeah, me too, it definitely helps when the site owner essentially is telling you that you can get the same quality for about $1400 less.

Exposed metal on metal bushings. More NVH and need to be greased occasionally. You'd probably want to take them off in the winter to because of the design.

Kart Boy or AVO have good ones you don't need to worry about. (I personally recommend KB, not to mention the owner Tom is cool ****)

I gotta check with IIR about a kart boy short shifter, I'd really like that one but it isn't listed on the site

[hiprsha666]

Yeah, me too, it definitely helps when the site owner essentially is telling you that you can get the same quality for about $1400 less.



I gotta check with IIR about a kart boy short shifter, I'd really like that one but it isn't listed on the site

Ya, josh is really helpful. He is the ****.

I bought my SS from IIR. They don't have the Kartboy unit. He sold me the torque solution one. I am happy with it.

[DHGurs]

Tom's a one man show at KB and he doesn't let too many other vendors sell his stuff.. For a SSK it doesn't really matter, all the ones that style are identical (usually copying KB). There is also the Mode/Cobb double adjustable shifter for 50% more.

[wrxtuner82]

think I'll stick with agency power

[Seraphinwolf]

All the :wub: for The Gaddis. :lol:

I no see SS brake lines?

Any who I agree with Gary about the Endlinks and other Perrin stuff. You can get Kartboy or Whitelines and get a way better quality part.

Which ACT clutch you getting?

When's the bushing list gonna pop up of stuff that you're buying for those?

[wrxtuner82]

All the :wub: for The Gaddis. :lol:

Which ACT clutch you getting?



ACT stage 1 clutch/streetlite flywheel, Josh says the kit should easily hold over 400HP

[Seraphinwolf]

Sounds good enough till you do the built shortblock. :up:

[Seraphinwolf]

I forgot SS clutch line. I keep meaning to get one for SixGun for when re trans goes in and everything gets hooked up.

[bigd_wright]

All the :wub: for The Gaddis. :lol:

I no see SS brake lines?

Any who I agree with Gary about the Endlinks and other Perrin stuff. You can get Kartboy or Whitelines and get a way better quality part.

Which ACT clutch you getting?

When's the bushing list gonna pop up of stuff that you're buying for those?
Pretty sure he meant Short Shifter when he said SS...:palm::lol:

[wrxtuner82]

SS could also mean stainless steel and I think that's more like where it might be going, since I found a lot of stainless steel brake lines. Didn't even think of a new clutch line

[bigd_wright]

Ya, josh is really helpful. He is the ****.

I bought my SS from IIR. They don't have the Kartboy unit. He sold me the torque solution one. I am happy with it.

SS could also mean stainless steel and I think that's more like where it might be going, since I found a lot of stainless steel brake lines. Didn't even think of a new clutch line
I know SS could mean stainless steel...But i was referring to hiprsha666's post...:shrug::lol:

[hiprsha666]

I am going to completely spell out everything from now on, easier for everyone.

[bigd_wright]

I am going to completely spell out everything from now on, easier for everyone.
Please do...:hide::lol: J/K

[wrxtuner82]

:spin: I blame the caffeine

[wrxtuner82]

Does anyone know where I can get a 3 pod gauge cluster for my door pillar?

[DHGurs]

You can buy one on 3gwrx from a kid who makes them, they actually look pretty good. There are no companies that make them for our cars. There is also another kid who makes a dual gauge cluster that fits around the OEM shroud.

[Seraphinwolf]

So I just remembered I didn't see fuel pump on the parts list. Gonna put that on the list? May I suggest the Deatsch Werks DW300 to carry through even the fully built motor and upgraded turbo.

[wrxtuner82]

So fuel pump and bushings and I've already gone over what bushings I need. Got it.

[wrxtuner82]

You can buy one on 3gwrx from a kid who makes them, they actually look pretty good. There are no companies that make them for our cars. There is also another kid who makes a dual gauge cluster that fits around the OEM shroud.
Signed up and been talkin to the kid all day, gonna order the 3 pod cluster for the pillar on March 1st, can't wait, saw pics and it's totally sexy, ordering a fuel pressure, boost and oil pressure gauge for it. It'll look awesome in my car.

On another note, can someone tell me what a turbo timer does and if it's even worth getting if I'm getting the Greddy boost controller? I don't know if they do the same thing or what?

[hiprsha666]

A turbo timer is not a boost controller. It keeps the engine running so the turbo can cool down after you are done driving, or somethign like that. You dont need one.

[wrxtuner82]

:up:

[98Wagoon]

soooo why the greddy boost controller?




and what the rusher of hips said about the terbo timer.

[RCKSTR]

A turbo timer is not a boost controller. It keeps the engine running so the turbo can cool down after you are done driving, or somethign like that. You dont need one.

this is correct! since our turbos are water cooled we don't need the turbo timers as other models do since not all are water cooled ;)

[98Wagoon]

^ that too. though I still like the added security of cycling the water/oil through for a minute or two afterwards. and nothing is funnier than when people are all YOU LEFT YOUR CAR RUNNING!!!! :ohnoes:

[wrxtuner82]

what's the difference between the normal OEM factory position turbo and just upgrading that turbo vs upgrading to a rotated turbo?